[pkg-wine-party] Plans for gnome-exe-thumbnailer?

[James Lu]

Hi everyone,

I think it would be nice to get gnome-exe-thumbnailer 0.9.4 in before
Debian Stretch freezes. However, I'm still not sure where the source code
should go in the long term - a standalone repository on GitHub would
be better than mixing it with old Winezeug sources.

If it's okay with everyone, I can create a new g-e-t repository later today
and add everyone's commit access. Right now, my separated 0.9.4 source is
just sitting in a different branch in the packaging repository :)

Best,
James

On 18/03/16 03:25 PM, Scott Ritchie wrote:
> I think we moved Winezeug to github since Google Code got deprecated.
>
> By all means I'd be perfectly happy with debian wine party taking over
> this package and Ubuntu inheriting it the old fashioned way. Too much
> manual effort on my part (hopefully I can at least get 1.8 into Xenial...)
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:50 PM Kyle Auble <kyle.auble at zoho.com
> <mailto:kyle.auble at zoho.com>> wrote:
>
> Wow, thanks for the quick replies,
>
> So it sounds like Github should be considered upstream now. Unless Scott
> wanted to keep it in Winezeug indefinitely, I'm also with James about
> separating it into its own repo. My own selfish reason is that I've
> started a fork of Winezeug with the intention of doing a post-mortem on
> it: https://bitbucket.org/kauble/winezeug-archaeology
>
> I asked around some on WineHQ about whether there were any plans to
> revive Winezeug, but the only reply I got was from Austin English in a
> wiki discussion. He said there's definitely still good material in it,
> but all of the old files would need to be cleared out first. After I
> toss out all of the obsolete stuff, I plan to get everything else either
> submitted to existing projects or into their own repos.
>
> As for the page on the Wine Wiki, we're actually transitioning over to a
> new wiki server, and we decided to manually migrate the pages, clearing
> out any outdated info and cruft. The "exe-thumbnailer" page didn't have
> much besides some links and the demo screen-shot. While it's closely
> related to wine, the feeling I get is that most of the wine team sees it
> as an independent project, so we decided to note it (with a link to
> Launchpad) at
>
https://wiki.winehq.org/Third_Party_Applications#Current_Third_Party_Applications
>
> If you want, I can at least embed the old screen-shot on the page next
> to the note, but even then, there's really not much there. What might be
> better is to update the README in the GitHub repo to use markdown. I
> don't know how to place images in a GitHub landing page (or if it's even
> possible), but I've attached the demo picture from the old wiki-page in
> case anyone wants to use it.
>
> Once the new GitHub repo is up and running, I can also change our link
> on the wiki to point to it.
>
> Thanks again,
> Kyle
>
> On 03/18/2016 02:39 PM, James Lu wrote:
> > Hi Jan,
> >
> > Awesome! I'd recommend splitting gnome-exe-thumbnailer into its own
> > repository, since it makes fetching the repository source a lot
> easier.
> > Create a new repo in GitHub, copy everything in the
> gnome-exe-thumnailer
> > folder over, and commit. Afterwards, it might be a good idea to
> tag the
> > 0.9.4 version ('git tag 0.9.4' or something similar, and then 'git
> push
> > --tags').
> >
> > Best,
> > James
> >
> > On 18/03/2016 1:27 PM, Jan Nekvasil wrote:
> >> Hi James,
> >>
> >> the latest version (0.9.4) is available in
> >> https://github.com/jan-nekvasil/winezeug/tree/master/thumbnailer,
> I've
> >> putted it there on Scott's request on 12 May 2015. A new major
> version
> >> with a lot of fixes, revamped internal logic and Android's .apk files
> >> thumbnaling (see the attached samples) is on the way. Maybe I
> should put
> >> it in a dedicated repository on github instead in forked winezeug, I
> >> really don't know. Alas, my experiences with github and debian
> packaging
> >> are very limited. Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Best regads
> >>
> >> Jan
> >> From:
> >> James Lu
> >> Date:
> >> Pá 18. březen 2016, 20:32:01 CET
> >> To:
> >> Kyle Auble, Scott Ritchie, Jan Nekvasil
> >> Copy:
> >> Pkg-wine-party
> >> Subject:
> >> Re: Plans for gnome-exe-thumbnailer?
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> The current packaging for gnome-exe-thumbnailer was based off
> Ubuntu's
> >>> 0.9.3-0ubuntu1 version at
> >>> http://packages.ubuntu.com/vivid/gnome-exe-thumbnailer. Since
> then, the
> >>> copy in Debian replaced the original Ubuntu version because it had a
> >>> greater version number (0.9.3-2). That's probably why the sites list
> >>> Debian Wine Party as maintainer instead of Scott Ritchie, the
> original
> >>> maintainer. But as far as I know, the sources Launchpad and
> Debian have
> >>> are the same now.
> >>>
> >>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783277 has
> some mail
> >>> related to the whereabouts of the source. Scott and Jan were
> planning to
> >>> put the source on GitHub, but I don't think that happened yet.
> (keeping
> >>> them in the loop here)
> >>>
> >>> Whether the source should remain in Launchpad or not should be
> decided
> >>> by Jan and Scott, and not me. I'm not aware of any plans for major
> >>> changes, but
> >>> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-exe-thumbnailer/+bugs is
> >>> probably the closest thing to an upstream bug tracker. That was
> there
> >>> before I introduced exe-thumbnailer to Debian.
> >>>
> >>> On a side note, I notice that the old Wine wiki page has since
> >>> disappeared. I should probably update the homepage that it
> points to,
> >>> but I don't see anything good to replace it with. :/
> >>>
> >>> (CC'ing Debian Wine party as this is probably relevant there too;
> >>> exe-thumbnailer is team-maintained in Debian)
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>> James
> >>>
> >>> On 18/03/2016 11:11 AM, Kyle Auble wrote:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I've recently been working on some of our docs at the Wine
> project. In
> >>>> the process, we're trying to get a clear idea of where any
> supplementary
> >>>> code is, but I wasn't sure where to direct people looking for the
> >>>> upstream of gnome-exe-thumbnailer.
> >>>>
> >>>> Debian PTS, Arch, and the few links on Gnome's website all
> point to the
> >>>> repo on Launchpad, but the Launchpad page has the Debian Wine
> packaging
> >>>> team listed as maintainers. In a README from an old version though,
> >>>> Scott R mentioned hoping the code would eventually be hosted
> upstream (I
> >>>> wasn't clear on if that meant Wine or Gnome).
> >>>>
> >>>> I tried emailing Scott, but I noticed he seems to have dropped
> out of
> >>>> sight in the past year, and I haven't heard back. As you're the
> most
> >>>> recent person to work with the package, I'd be interested in your
> >>>> thoughts about where the thumbnailer code ultimately belongs
> and what
> >>>> work it needs. Is the Launchpad repo still fine for upstream,
> or do you
> >>>> think it should be hosted somewhere else? Are there any major
> changes
> >>>> you think the program itself needs?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time and enjoy your spring,
> >>>> Kyle
> >>>>
>
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