[pkg-wine-party] Bug#854020: Wine does not longer work with OSS

Klaus Ethgen Klaus at Ethgen.de
Fri Feb 3 11:33:01 UTC 2017

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Hi Simon,

Am Fr den  3. Feb 2017 um 12:20 schrieb Simon McVittie:
> On Fri, 03 Feb 2017 at 08:09:33 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> > OSS is the only sound system working. (Currently oss4 4.2-build2010-5)
> It seems you have chosen to use an out-of-tree audio driver that is
> not part of the Linux kernel. I'm pretty sure this does not make
> wine unusable in general, so it is at most 'important' severity
> (and I'm being generous there).

Do the severity as you need.

OSS4 is in Debian and working well. So the explicit disable of oss does
leave me without sound what drives wine unusable for me.

> Linux's platform-native API for audio is ALSA, so I would recommend
> using ALSA and the in-tree drivers, together with a user-space audio
> mixer such as PulseAudio or dmix. If ALSA does not work for you, please
> open a bug in an appropriate package (probably not wine, unless the
> issue is Wine-specific and general audio playback using ALSA works
> as expected).

I gave alsa several tries. The best what I ever was able to get out was
some cracking sound that breaks more when I move the mouse. The worst
was several kernel panic.

On the other hand, OSS always worked. The current wine was wittingly
broken for this sound system without any reason.

> The oss4 package has unfixed release-critical bugs that make it very
> likely to be excluded from the next stable release of Debian; OSS4
> support was removed because the alternative would have been to
> exclude wine and wine-development from the next stable release as
> well, which I hope you would agree does not provide a solution for
> your use-case either.

I see no real breaking bug. Moreover, that is no reason to break wine
support for the only working sound system.

> If you must use OSS, using it via its libasound compatibility layer would
> not put key packages like wine in danger of being removed when oss4 has
> release-critical bugs. Unfortunately, that compatibility layer does
> not seem to be very well-integrated in the Debian packaging (#703843,
> #770491, #668812, #614765, which are all bugs in the oss4 source package).
> If you are using oss4 successfully, your help with the maintenance of
> the oss4 source package would probably be appreciated.

I wrote once with the current OSS4 maintainer. I think, it is pretty
easy and strait forward to fix it.

I will have a look into that bugs.

But in this case there was a more complex logic implemented just to
break OSS wittingly.

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