[pkg-wpa-devel] Bug#766746: Bug#806889: wpasupplicant: New upstream	version (2.5)
    Stefan Lippers-Hollmann 
    s.l-h at gmx.de
       
    Wed Apr 20 17:38:06 UTC 2016
    
    
  
Hi
On 2016-04-20, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hi Stefan,
> 
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 03:01:21 +0100 Stefan Lippers-Hollmann <s.l-h at gmx.de> wrote:
> > Given that it's opt-in, explicitly documenting this as volatile
> > and potentially unsupported (in the future) might be a way out, 
> > but I'd still hate to eventually break previously working network
> > configurations in the future.  
> 
> Please do this if it's the only way to reassure you about this feature.
> But this setup is largely documented and already in use in ArchLinux for
> example and I was surprised to see that Debian did not support it yet.
> 
> It seems to work rather well for most persons including Debian persons:
> https://www.joachim-breitner.de/blog/664-Switching_to_systemd-networkd
> 
> That article is dated Oct 2014 so we're really late in the game... please
> fix this soon. Thank you.
What is your opinion regarding the system inherent problems I've raised?
[ pasting from <20160317030121.68b23ccf at mir>, 
  https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=766746#22 ]
- systemd-networkd upstream hasn't committed to a policy regarding 
  wireless devices, its handling might change in the future
- systemd-networkd doesn't provide any tools like ifup/ ifdown so
  far, making dynamic configuration changes (e.g. switch from wired-
  to wireless networks) difficult.
- hotpluggable wireless cards (USB) are problematic in the sense
  that systemd will wait (until timeout, 90s by default) if the
  a configured device is unplugged.
- basically unsuitable for notebook scenarios, where one might 
  occasionally want to switch to wired ethernet (so far routing
  metrics seem to be the only, quite hacky workaround).
I was really hoping to get some feedback, especially the later three
issues, from those looking to get it supported.
Regards
	Stefan Lippers-Hollmann
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