[Pkg-xfce-devel] README: Proposal for unreleased packages/changelog entries

Emanuele Rocca ema at debian.org
Tue Dec 20 18:12:17 UTC 2005

* Simon Huggins <huggie at earth.li>, [2005-12-20 17:41 +0000]:
>  On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 02:44:31PM +0200, Jani Monoses wrote:
>  > This may not be practical because of the time a package needs to be
>  > tested before being considered ready for upload, but we should still
>  > strive for upload 'early and often' IMHO, for avoiding bottlenecks and
>  > the introduction of unrelated changes in a revision which
>  > theoretically make bug hunting harder.
>  I find this argument specious - it's all in SVN so if we want to we can
>  work out exactly what caused the introduction of a bug.

Yep, I agree. Moreover, an 'upload early and often' strategy requires
efforts and a lot of spare time, with the bad side effect that the more
you upload, the more you may introduce new bugs (not to mention
buildds resources and so on).

>  > In the cases when an upload is not made in time and another commiter
>  > has changes to the package I think the layout of the changelog would
>  > be better if it was a stricter format, so instead of what is above we
>  > had:
>  >  *blah1 (Simon Huggins)
>  >  *blah2 (Emanuele Rocca)
>  >  ...
>  >  *blahn (Simon Huggins)
>  > so they are added chronologically (as the changelogs themselves) not
>  > per author.
>  I really don't like this.  I much prefer the two original formats I 
>  suggested.

I prefeer them as well, and they're also used by other big project
(apache, for instance). Not that we should do what others do, but
in these situations I like to follow the "de-facto standards".

>  > this would make automatic handling a lot easier (I am now sedding
>  > across the files, and adding Bump Version to 3.6.2 (Jani Monoses) to
>  > 23 files  would be way easier if the format wasn't hierarchical and
>  > the corresponding header didn't have to be looked up.
>  Automatic handling isn't a big issue.  Sure you've had to change 23
>  changelogs and it's a bit of a pain but someone has to then upload 23
>  packages and inspect and check them all which is more pain :)

Well, with two DDs in the team it should be theoretically a little bit
better. :)

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