[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#524606: Bug#524606: xfce4-panel: Missing Suggests/Recommends on xfdesktop4

[Jens Seidel]

On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 02:42:24PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 14:17:14 +0200
> Jens Seidel <jensseidel at users.sf.net> wrote:
> > since some days I miss a start menu in xfce4-panel. First I assumed
> > it is because not all xfce packages of version 4.6 where compiled yet
> > and some older packages from 4.4 are still used. But today even the
> > last old package xfce4-session could be upgraded to 4.6.0-2 but the
> > problem remains:

OK, there are still a few 4.4 packages installed, but no important ones I
think.
 
> > Since xfce4-panel uses xfce4-menu.desktop from xfdesktop4-data and
> > xfce4-menu-plugin from xfdesktop4 please add a (weak) dependence on
> > xfdesktop4 (which depends itself on xfdesktop4-data).
> 
> Well, the xfce4-panel only uses what it's told to. One can remove the
> start menu (many people do) and it works perfectly fine. The thing is,
> the default panel config uses the menu plugin, so yes if one installs
> the panel and not xfdesktop, the default config will look a bit weird.
> 
> But I definitely don't want to add too much dependencies, especially
> when it doesn't really make sense.

Even not a suggests: or recommends:?
 
> Having a consistent default config is important, but usually a default
> config is when Xfce is completely installed, and that includes both
> xfce4-panel and xfdesktop4.

I'm sure I had this in the past. But I hink because of the transition
from 4.4 => 4.6 aptitude tried to solve some conflicts by removing
packages. Maybe I did it also manually but it took really some time
until most packages where rebuild on armel.
 
> Your problem is not directly related to that, as it arrises on upgrade,
> but, again, that won't happen if you upgrade consistently. And the
> xfce4 metapackage already brings all the versionned dependencies.

I think my system is not too unconsistent :-) Please note that I hesitated
to report this problem in the past because of the ongoing transition.
 
> > After installing xfdesktop4 the warnings vanished. I still have no
> > start menu, even after calling update-menu, but I'm sure it will work
> > again soon.
> 
> That, on the other hand, is really weird. Do you now have a consistent
> Xfce 4.6 installation?

See the list below.

> Is the start menu plugin correctly configured?

I did not change the default configuration, so it should be OK. But I run
out of diskspace in the last days (root was not affected), maybe this could
be a reason?

> Do you have a correct menu when you right click on the desktop?

Right clicking is not so easy with a touchpad. But after calling
'xmodmap -e "pointer = 3 2 1"' I could test it: No, I don't have any
dialog once I press the right button.

# dpkg -la | grep xfce
ii  gtk2-engines-xfce                 2.6.0-2                         A GTK+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce
ii  libxfce4mcs-client3               4.4.2-4                         Client library for Xfce4 configure interface
ii  libxfce4mcs-manager3              4.4.2-4                         Manager library for Xfce4 configure interfac
ii  libxfce4menu-0.1-0                4.6.0-3                         freedesktop.org compliant menu implementatio
ii  libxfce4util4                     4.6.0-2                         Utility functions library for Xfce4
ii  libxfcegui4-4                     4.6.0-2                         Basic GUI C functions for Xfce4
rc  xfce4                             4.4.2.1                         Meta-package for the Xfce Lightweight Deskto
ii  xfce4-battery-plugin              0.5.1-1                         battery monitor plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-cellmodem-plugin            0.0.5-1                         cellular modem plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-cpufreq-plugin              0.2-2                           cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 pan
ii  xfce4-cpugraph-plugin             0.4.0-1                         CPU load graph plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-datetime-plugin             0.6.1-1                         date and time plugin for the Xfce4 panel
ii  xfce4-diskperf-plugin             2.2.0-1                         disk performance display plugin for the Xfce
ii  xfce4-fsguard-plugin              0.4.2-1                         filesystem monitor plugin for the Xfce4 pane
ii  xfce4-icon-theme                  4.4.2-1                         Xfce Standard icon theme
ii  xfce4-mcs-manager                 4.4.2-3                         Settings manager for Xfce4
ii  xfce4-netload-plugin              0.4.0-1                         network load monitor plugin for the Xfce4 pa
ii  xfce4-notifyd                     0.1.0-2                         simple, visually-appealing notification daem
ii  xfce4-panel                       4.6.0-2                         The Xfce4 desktop environment panel
ii  xfce4-session                     4.6.0-2                         Xfce4 Session Manager
ii  xfce4-settings                    4.6.0-2                         graphical application for managing Xfce sett
ii  xfce4-systemload-plugin           0.4.2-2                         system load monitor plugin for the Xfce4 pan
ii  xfce4-taskmanager                 0.4.1-1                         process manager for the Xfce4 Desktop Enviro
ii  xfce4-utils                       4.6.0-2                         Various tools for Xfce
ii  xfdesktop4                        4.6.0-2                         xfce desktop background, icons and root menu
ii  xfdesktop4-data                   4.6.0-2                         xfce desktop background, icons and root menu

Jens