[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#646981: Bug#646981: xfce4-panel -- still looses all items on logoff.

Yves-Alexis Perez corsac at debian.org
Thu Sep 13 07:41:34 UTC 2012

On jeu., 2012-09-13 at 17:01 +1000, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> Hi Yves-Alexis,
> On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 15:44:35 Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > > But this is regression from 4.8.5, if I'm remember correctly.
> > > (At least I've been using panel for quite a while before this problem
> > > manifested itself).
> > 
> > That look spurious to me, but I'll have a quick look.
> Thank you. 
> > But you could just
> > downgrade the package and see if it's the case.
> I could, but to downgrade I would have to resurrect snapshot an re-build it, 
> together with all widgets/items that I need... (Or downgrade everything to 
> Squeeze)

Use snapshot.debian.net
> Nevertheless we have a legitimate bug.
> I know it's the case because just as the person who reported this issue I 
> experienced it the very same way immediately after upgrade.
> Later this forced me to use version from experimental.
> > > Would it be possible to review changes introduced in 4.8.6 and see if
> > > something could be reverse-back-ported? Just a thought...
> > 
> > My guess is that if the behavior changed, it might have been for good
> > reasons, and so it might be difficult to revert it.
> True, I understand the challenge.
> However we know that version before 4.8.6 used to work and that all later 
> versions are working. 
> Whenever the intention for responsible change was good, the result is a bit 
> devastating....

Well, it doesn't seem to affect much people in the end. As I said
before, my guess is that it affects people not using a session manager
or using a session manager which (for some reason) doesn't register
xfce4-panel in the session (which seems to be the case for you in KDE).

All people using standard Xfce desktop are not affected, which I guess
is the majority of people using xfce4-panel. Yes, Xfce is supposed to be
modular and xfce4-panel is supposed to work perfectly fine outside of
Xfce, but the development team has quite some time constraints and
already said it wasn't possible to backport the fixes to 4.8. Feel free
to argue on the upstream bug at
https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8206 but I'm unsure you'll be
able to change that.

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