[Pkg-xfce-devel] Reverting to GNOME for jessie's default desktop

Werner Scharinger werner.scharinger at catura.de
Mon Aug 11 17:08:41 UTC 2014

Hi all,

Am 11.08.2014 18:12, schrieb Jonas Smedegaard:
> Quoting Olav Vitters (2014-08-11 11:21:14)
>> On Fri, Aug 08, 2014 at 11:10:50AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>>> Quite a few places in the World have poor and/or expensive internet
>>> access.  Larger default desktop will hurt the most in developing
>>> countries: non-techies gets discourages to use Debian at all, or when
>>> using it may apply security fixes less often.
>> How poor is poor?
> Poor enough that they bother visitors coming from different places in
> the World asking them to please consider bring install data "by
> sneakernet" (e.g. on CDs but could just as well be floppies or uSD
> storage embedded in iPhones - physical media type not important).
Is it realy a question about poor and whealty?

Why not reference to:
So - what is to do? Is it really necessary to decide only
to have one solution?

I'm not very familiar to the technical details, but is it possible - for 
example -
1) to have a plain CD / DVD Image with a tall DE?
2) and enable the user in a second step to upgrade easy to whatever 
he/she wants? KDE/GNOME/Mint...?
3) Provide a additional DVD Installation Image with native GNOME?

I think it is not necessary to devide the world in two parts - poor and 
I think we all have different needs in different situations - and these 
is not allways
congruent with poor or wealthy.
I think there is a broad need for a tall DE all over the world - just 
think about plain servers.
On the other side there is also a need for a mature DE like GNOME.
So - why not to try to fullfill these needs of the users like pointed 
out in the debian contract:
4. Our priorities are our users and free software
And I think there were _all_ users ment. Right?

Only the five cent from a plain user...  :-)


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