[Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#755234: Bug#755234: Bug#755234: Bug#755234: Bug#755234: a more complete patch for xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0-5, a problem with refreshing of battery status

Eduard Bloch bloch at unix-ag.uni-kl.de
Mon Aug 25 21:23:59 UTC 2014

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014 at 09:26:27PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On lun., 2014-08-25 at 12:30 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> > I am well aware how development works, but one has to balance
> > the facts. And as long as there is no real working backport/fix
> > we (Debian) will ship a broken xfpm, which is as bad as shipping
> > a development version (or even worse).
> You're welcome to join the pkg-xfce team if you have time to spare.
> There are plenty of bugs to fix, some of them related to the
> systemd/logind switch, some of them due to upower.
> But just waving hands and pointing fingers is not the way we work.

Looking from newcomers perspective, this bug report seems to have
degenerated into yet another systemd rant which is not productive.

Let's imagine we would take the 1.3.x version and add it to Sid. Do you
consider this possible, anyhow? If no, what are the reasons against it,
apart from the convention "1.3 is development and therefore evil". I
mean, what's the most minimal subset of things that are required to fix
in order to use it?

Dependencies are propably not the problem, I could install the
experiment version in Sid without pulling in the rest of xfce updates or
uninstalling any.

The situation with current Sid version is pretty bad. On my system, the
power manager was NOT controlled by UI, I could configure whatever I
wanted but the changes were not applied. I was not able to use Hibernate
in any way. And the brightness controls also failed most of the time.
And replacing systemd didn't resolve any problem, new problem appeared
instead (no hibernate/suspend usable even from the logout dialog).
The way to solve this was:

a) configure systemd to get the hands off power control (logind.conf mod
and loind restart)
b) installing the Experimental version. Now it finally does something
sensible, even suspend-to-ram seems to work again (probably broken by
systemd before)

I seriously suggest doing what serves more users and push these things
to Sid ASAP. I cannot imagine anyone wants to go Stable with the current


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