[Pkg-zope-developers] A couple of questions on Plone in Debian

[Jamie Robe]

Fabio, Thank you very much!!!!! It all seems to be working well for me.
I will just keep an eye on the plone versions on the plone.org site, and
then use apt-get when I am ready to upgrade and possibly migrate.

I wasn't aware of the dzhandle command, so I will look into that - looks
like you use it to move products into the products folder.  I have never
had to do it that way, but I see the usefullness.

I appreciate the email. Thanks!
Jamie


Jamie T. Robe
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-----Original Message-----
From: Fabio Tranchitella [mailto:kobold at debian.org] 
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 4:11 AM
To: Jamie Robe
Cc: pkg-zope-developers at lists.alioth.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-zope-developers] A couple of questions on Plone in
Debian


Il giorno gio, 09/03/2006 alle 23.00 -0500, Jamie Robe ha scritto:
> Hi everyone, I have been using apt-get on Debian servers to install 
> Plone with no problems. I have two questions - probably stupid but...
I 
> would apprecaite any help you could send me.
> 
No question is stupid, just some answers are.

> (1) First question is that I have been doing the following three 
> commands to get my system working. Is this the correct sequence? I 
> have been using "testing" so I get the latest recommended Plone 
> version... is that good?
> 
> apt-get install zope2.8
> apt-get install zope-cmfplone 
> apt-get install plone-site


If you just need a ready-to-go plone instance, you can install the
plone-site package and you are ready. I usually want multi-lingual
content, so this is my way to go:

# apt-get install plone-site zope-linguaplone
# dzhandle -z2.8 add-product plone-site LinguaPlone

>  (2) I had a question about the best practice method to keep my zope
> and plone system updated properly.  
> I was wondering if I should/could use apt-get to keep the above
> packages up-to-date? Or what do you recommend. I want to keep up with
> security fixes, etc. Or should I just shutdown the plone sites, copy
> the data.fs to another partition, and then do the updates, then just
> copy data.fs back? I assume in big releases there may be migration
> things I need to do too?

It is really common that plone developers suggest to do not use the
debian packages, probably for problems happend in the past. I'm using
zope/plone from both debian stable and unstable, and I feel really
comfortable with them. The only problem I have with zope/plone in sarge
is that the packages are outdated, but I'm solving this with backports
for all the zope debian infrastructure.

What I can tell you is to install the debian packages, and after every
upgrade where some zope products has been touched check if a migration
is needed (you would do the same with source-installed products, too).

Your ZODB won't be modified, you won't loose data, and you'll catch all
the security fixes you need.

And, please, reply to that email that debian zope/plone infrastructure
works well enough to be used. :)

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