[kobold at debian.org: The future of Zope{2, 3} and Plone in Debian and Ubuntu]

[Matthias Klose]

On 02.07.2009 13:05, Jonas Meurer wrote:
> On 23/06/2009 Fabio Tranchitella wrote:
>>> Were you aware that we've renumbered the releases and inserted a less
>>> ambitious Plone 4, which should be in beta by the end of the year? It
>>> will run on (and require) Zope 2.12. Plone is finally joining the  modern
>>> Python world. :-)
>>
>> I don't exclude to support Zope 2.x again in Debian and Ubuntu, but I
>> really think that in this moment dropping the packages is the best
>> solution: we will finally be able to drop python2.4.
>
> why not wait for zope2.12 with python2.5/2.6 support, upload that one to
> debian/unstable and afterwards file a request for removal for
> zope2.10/zope2.11/python2.4? I believe that a zope2.12 release candidate
> will be published within the next month, given that a beta2 has already
> been published on 27. of may.
> That way we would have a zope2 release available in debian/unstable all
> the time would.

The zope2.12 release candidate was released last week. I updated the packaging 
in the zope team repository. An upload still requires some work, because some 
modules still need to be packaged. These are:

   Acquisition DateTime ExtensionClass
   Persistence RestrictedPython tempstorage zLOG zope.container
   zope.contentprovider zope.contenttype zope.deferredimport zope.formlib
   zope.lifecycleevent zope.pagetemplate zope.processlifetime zope.sendmail
   zope.sequencesort zope.site zope.size zope.structuredtext zope.tal
   zope.tales zope.testbrowser [zope-functional-testing] (UNRELEASED?)
   zope.viewlet zope.app.form zope.app.publication zope.app.publisher
   zope.app.schema

All other zope dependencies are available as modular zope packages in unstable. 
Please have a look how these are packaged, and start packaging. As an interim 
solution it could be useful to include the still missing modules in the zope2.12 
package until all these are packaged.

The good news is that the schooltool project already did package a lot of these, 
so you "only" need updates to recent upstream versions, and an update from 
python-vanguardistas to python-van.pydeb (Brian might give more help on this).

I know that not the whole zope team is interested in these additional modules, 
so I'm CCing the zope2.x uploaders directly to get involved with the packaging.

I do not want to wait with the removal of python2.4 from unstable for too long, 
I think a short time without zope2.x in unstable is ok, while having three 
python2.x versions is too much. But it looks like zope2.12 based on python2.5 or 
python2.6 is doable for squeeze.

   Matthias

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