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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Hi everyone, I have been using apt-get on Debian servers to install Plone with no problems. I have two questions - probably stupid but… I would apprecaite any help you could send me.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">(1) First question is that I have been doing the following three commands to get my system working. Is this the correct sequence? I have been using "testing" so I get the latest recommended Plone version… is that good?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">apt-get install zope2.8</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">apt-get install zope-cmfplone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">apt-get install plone-site</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial"> (2) I had a question about the best practice method to keep my zope and plone system updated properly. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">I was wondering if I should/could use apt-get to keep the above packages up-to-date? Or what do you recommend. I want to keep up with security fixes, etc. Or should I just shutdown the plone sites, copy the data.fs to another partition, and then do the updates, then just copy data.fs back? I assume in big releases there may be migration things I need to do too?</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">When I posted to the plone listserve, I got some answers telling it was great using apt-get… another like this one below:</FONT></P>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> Hi. I am trying to keep my servers up-to-date on everything, and was </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> wonder what advice you all have for me. I am using Debian Linux and I </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> am wondering if I should update and plone. I use the following to do </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> my install: apt-get install zope2.8</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> apt-get install zope-cmfplone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> apt-get install plone-site</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> It is easy enough to use apt-get to upgrade packages. Is there a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> procedure to make sure I don't destroty my ZODB (data.fs) by overwriting</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> and/or by hitting migration problems.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">> Just wanted to see what you all thought :-)</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">The procedure is, don't do it. Package managers, especially debian it </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">seems, are not good at staying up-to-date with plone, and if your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Products/ get updated without you also knowing to run migration, may </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">become incredibly screwed. It's better to keep control yourself: </FONT>
<BR><A HREF="http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source"><U><FONT COLOR="#0000FF" SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/setup-from-source</FONT></U></A>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Martin</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Thanks Debian Plone managers! You have done a great job.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Arial">Jamie</FONT>
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