From agustinhenze at gmail.com  Sat Dec  6 00:06:52 2008
From: agustinhenze at gmail.com (Agustin)
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 22:06:52 -0200
Subject: [Po4a-devel] Translation in spanish the documentation of PostgreSQL
Message-ID: <1228522012.5185.31.camel@tititin.tititin.org.ar>

Hi, we are starting translation in spanish the documentation of
PostgreSQL. When execute this 
usuario at machine: po4a-gettextize -M utf8 -f sgml -m array.sgml -p
array.po
 nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:0:E: no document type declaration; will parse without
validation 
this error, and not continue.
The documentation is here [0]. Thanks in advance

[0] git clone git://git.postgresql.org/git/postgresql.git

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From nicolas.francois at centraliens.net  Sat Dec  6 16:48:08 2008
From: nicolas.francois at centraliens.net (Nicolas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?=)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 17:48:08 +0100
Subject: [Po4a-devel] Translation in spanish the documentation
	of	PostgreSQL
In-Reply-To: <1228522012.5185.31.camel@tititin.tititin.org.ar>
References: <1228522012.5185.31.camel@tititin.tititin.org.ar>
Message-ID: <20081206164808.GA6580@nekral.nekral.homelinux.net>

Hi,

On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 10:06:52PM -0200, agustinhenze at gmail.com wrote:
> Hi, we are starting translation in spanish the documentation of
> PostgreSQL. When execute this 
> usuario at machine: po4a-gettextize -M utf8 -f sgml -m array.sgml -p
> array.po
>  nsgmls:<OSFD>0:3:0:E: no document type declaration; will parse without
> validation 
> this error, and not continue.
> The documentation is here [0]. Thanks in advance
> 
> [0] git clone git://git.postgresql.org/git/postgresql.git

It should not be necessary to translate array.sgml separately. Translating
the root file (postgres.sgml) should be sufficient.

Unfortunately, there is a bug in po4a which makes that all entities are
not included by po4a.

Also, po4a cannot process non master SGML document (without a DOCTYPE and
a prolog).

I just fixed this bug in the cvs version. You can use this version by
copying Sgml.pm in:
	<path>/Locale/Po4a/Sgml.pm

and prefixing the po4a commands by
	PERLLIB=<path>

I also included more tags in CVS, which might help you.
(otherwise, you need the following options:
-o translate="see substeps example seealso biblioentry biblioset \
              chapterinfo orgdiv appendixinfo collab collabname \
              confgroup conftitle confdates pagenums" \
-o ignore="acronym lineannotation city country isbn volumenum pubsnumber" \
-o empty="spanspec"

Best Regards,
-- 
Nekral


From poy at 123gen.com  Sun Dec 14 18:55:45 2008
From: poy at 123gen.com (poy)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:55:45 +0100
Subject: [Po4a-devel] XML: prevent some attributes from being translated
Message-ID: <F6AD0F2331194B8B8994FB863FA8A755@ZOUZOU>

hi,

i am using the XHTML module from po4a, and i would like to specify 
attributes that i don't want to be translated.

i do know about the "untranslated" option, which i already use in some 
places, but that option only applies to tags. here i would like to ignore 
modifications done by translators on attributes of an inline tag.

example: the text "abc <a href=\"file.html\" target=\"_blank\" 
title=\"link-name\"> def". as of now, the text appears as is in the .pot 
file, and if a translator mistakenly translates \"file.html\" into 
\"translated_name.html\", then the link will point to a non-existing page.
when a translator translates that text to "abc_translated <a 
href=\"file_translated.html\" target=\"wrong_target\" 
title=\"link-name_translated\"> def_translated", i would like modifications 
to the "href" and "target" attributes to be ignored. or as an alternative 
solution, simply exit po4a with an error stating that the translation file 
is incorrect.

i assume there is no current way of doing it; i could try, but i don't know 
Perl much and even less po4a. i have noticed the recent work on the XHTML 
module (thanks for <br> and <u>, much appreciated!), so i was hoping a po4a 
maintainer could give this a try.
otherwise, i would like pointers on where to start...

thanks,

poy 



From poy at 123gen.com  Sun Dec 14 19:00:06 2008
From: poy at 123gen.com (poy)
Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:00:06 +0100
Subject: [Po4a-devel] prevent some attributes from being translated
Message-ID: <FBBA6DDB2E2B43C4ABF995B3084410B8@ZOUZOU>

> example: the text "abc <a href=\"file.html\" target=\"_blank\" 
> title=\"link-name\"> def".

i meant "abc <a href=\"file.html\" target=\"_blank\" 
title=\"link-name\">text...</a> def" of course (forgot the closing tag).

poy 



From nicolas.francois at centraliens.net  Wed Dec 17 17:30:34 2008
From: nicolas.francois at centraliens.net (Nicolas =?iso-8859-1?Q?Fran=E7ois?=)
Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:30:34 +0100
Subject: [Po4a-devel] XML: prevent some attributes from being translated
In-Reply-To: <F6AD0F2331194B8B8994FB863FA8A755@ZOUZOU>
References: <F6AD0F2331194B8B8994FB863FA8A755@ZOUZOU>
Message-ID: <20081217173034.GA7988@nekral.nekral.homelinux.net>

Hi,

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 07:55:45PM +0100, poy at 123gen.com wrote:
> 
> example: the text "abc <a href=\"file.html\" target=\"_blank\" 
> title=\"link-name\"> def". as of now, the text appears as is in the .pot 
> file, and if a translator mistakenly translates \"file.html\" into 
> \"translated_name.html\", then the link will point to a non-existing page.
> when a translator translates that text to "abc_translated <a 
> href=\"file_translated.html\" target=\"wrong_target\" 
> title=\"link-name_translated\"> def_translated", i would like modifications 
> to the "href" and "target" attributes to be ignored. or as an alternative 
> solution, simply exit po4a with an error stating that the translation file 
> is incorrect.
> 
> i assume there is no current way of doing it; i could try, but i don't know 
> Perl much and even less po4a. i have noticed the recent work on the XHTML 
> module (thanks for <br> and <u>, much appreciated!), so i was hoping a po4a 
> maintainer could give this a try.
> otherwise, i would like pointers on where to start...

No, there are currently no way to do this.

In the next version, I would like to add "placeholder" tags.

In that case, it should be possible to po4a to generate such PO files:

msgid "abc_translated <placeholder a_1/> def_translated"
msgstr ""

msgid "content of the link"
msgstr ""

If the placeholder tag is specified as untranslatable, that should also do
the trick for you.

With the current version, the only think you can do is to execute some
scripts on the translation to check that translators did not change the
content of the links.

Best Regards,
-- 
Nekral


From poy at 123gen.com  Thu Dec 18 13:00:36 2008
From: poy at 123gen.com (poy)
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 14:00:36 +0100
Subject: [Po4a-devel] XML: prevent some attributes from being translated
In-Reply-To: <20081217173034.GA7988@nekral.nekral.homelinux.net>
References: <F6AD0F2331194B8B8994FB863FA8A755@ZOUZOU>
	<20081217173034.GA7988@nekral.nekral.homelinux.net>
Message-ID: <8CC0A10BFA06489BAB06F5AF47C104BB@ZOUZOU>

thanks for your answer.

i was thinking about sub-classing "found_string" but i guess i'll just wait 
for your placeholder idea which might just do the trick as well.

poy