[Po4a-devel] Alioth is closing, po4a needs a new home very soon

[Brian Exelbierd]

On Thu, Jan 25, 2018, at 2:45 PM, Brian Exelbierd wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jan 25, 2018, at 2:08 PM, Martin Quinson wrote:
> > Hello pals,
> > 
> > it was decided that the alioth hosting service will be soon
> > decommissioned[1] next month, and we should move the development to
> > another hosting service. I should have done that mail before, sorry.
> > 
> > The git itself was already mirrored on github[2], so I will just change
> > the README and everything to point to github instead. 
> > 
> > The web server can also be hosted on github, but this has still to be
> > done and I'm really short on time. Any help would be welcome here. The
> > source code of the web pages were already mirrorred on github[3], but
> > we should take care of the hosting.
> 
> I am happy to work on getting the site running on GitHub pages.  One 
> challenge is that GH pages doesn't support SSL.  I believe we have two 
> options:
> 
> 1) Use Cloudflare's free service to do this.  I am not fully in favor of 
> this because I feel like it is "fake" SSL because cloudflare pulls from 
> the non-SSL gh pages.
> 
> 2) I may be able to get us hosting via Red Hat's Open Source and 
> Standards Community Cage program.  This would be full featured and 
> probably involve a container (with possible CI interface) running on 
> OpenShift.  It is SSL capable.

Looking at this a bit more I don't think GH pages is an option.  We make use of php to drive some components and I believe GH pages is static content only.

I see two options:

1) Convert to a static system (jekyll, asciibinder, etc.)
2) Use a full featured host ala #2 above.

I'll keep pushing on #2, but I'd like to know if anyone would object to moving to a static page generator.

regards,

bex


> 
> > The most concerning parts are this mailing list, and the issues that
> > are reported on alioth. 
> > 
> > For the issues, I could not find any tool to move them to github and I
> > fear that we would have to it manually. Does someone know such an
> > automatic tool or would be willing to do the move? If we have an
> > automatic tool, I'd like to move the closed issues also, as they
> > contain valuable information. If not I think we should at least copy
> > the open issues over. Again, any help would be welcome here.
> 
> Between now and Feb 1 I won't have time to do this for sure.  Do we 
> think we can get a dump we could parse to load later?
> 
> > For the mailing lists, I have no good idea. Do you? If the list gets
> > shut down on Feb 1st as it could, we have the IRC channel to coordinate:
> > #po4a on oftc. I have a permanent presence on that channel so it could
> > work as a (very) temporarily solution. But someone should come up with
> > a better idea, I think.
> 
> I may be able to get OSAS to host this mailing list too.
> 
> I am emailing them today with the following request:
> 
> 1) A mailing list
> 2) A web service supporting SSL
> 
> Can you tell me:
> 
> a) Who provides our ssl certificate?  Lets Encrypt? who?
> 
> b) Do we have a domain name?  I can probably get one purchased if we 
> don't.  Alternately there is probably a domain name we can get a po4a@/. 
> on.
> 
> Let me know.
> 
> regards,
> 
> bex
> 
> > 
> > Again, I'm sorry for the short notice, I'm trying to do too much
> > things at the same time these days.
> > 
> > Bye, Mt.
> > 
> > [1] https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth#Deprecation_of_Alioth
> > [2] https://github.com/mquinson/po4a
> > [3] https://github.com/mquinson/po4a-website
> > 
> > -- 
> > Being able to break security doesn’t make you a hacker anymore than
> > being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. 
> >                  -- Eric S. Raymond.
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