[Reportbug-maint] Bug#241027: Please support reporting bugs to alioth.debian.org

Helge Kreutzmann debian at helgefjell.de
Fri Jun 26 11:20:17 UTC 2009

Hello Sandro,
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:59:13PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:49, Helge Kreutzmann<debian at helgefjell.de> wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:02:52PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 15:46, Helge Kreutzmann<debian at helgefjell.de> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2004 at 02:13:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> >> >> Package: reportbug
> >> >> Severity: wishlist
> >> >>
> >> >> Since the alioth people refuse to support the "ordinary" BTS
> >> >> http://alioth.debian.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=300014&group_id=1&atid=200001
> >> >>
> >> >> it would be great if reportbug could find a way to interface to
> >> >> alioth, so bugs can be reported in a unified interface.
> >> >>
> >> >> I know this is probably a long term wishlist, but having this would be
> >> >> really great!
> >> >
> >> > Did you have some time to consider if this is feasible?
> >>
> >> You have to involve the Alioth team to provide us a way to report bug
> >> to them (the best would be a mailbox where we can send report for
> >> alioth issues).
> >
> > I'm sorry, I've no (explict) contact to the Alioth team as well.
> > That's basically the reason I would like this feature. I hoped that
> > you had the contacts necessary (as "bug" experts)
> we are no "bug expert" (that could be the owner of bugs.debian.org),
> we are simply the maintainer of reportbug.

Sorry, that was not meant as an offence. I (obviously wrongly) assumed
that by beiing the maintainer of reportbug you had collected some
knowledge about the upstream issues (here beiing bug handling).

> >  to work out the technical details.
> what's there taht stops you from contacting Alioth team and ask them
> what you can do to help achieve your goal?

Well, if that helps you I can sure search for an e-mail adress on
alioth and request them to contact you/this bug. 

> >> I'm sorry, but we cannot be the facilitators for this, if Alioth team
> >> doesn't support, so you should be the gateway if you're still
> >> interested in this feature.
> >
> > I'm still interested though possible not the right contact person. So
> could you please explain why? there's no need to be a tech guy to ask
> if some sort of coordination/development can be done on alioth side.

I can for sure send an e-mail as stated above.

> > I guess the bug has to stay at the current state for the moment. Maybe
> > someone with contact to the Alioth team will see it and can provide
> > the necessary contact to couple alioth to reportbug.
> I don't like to keep bugs opened because "maybe someone will come up
> and solve it", in particular for bugs we can't do anything to solve
> only by ourselves and when the submitter seems not willing to push
> further on alioth. (the reason the bug was not already closed or bein
> pinged is that it didn't fell under my radar).

Well, this bug is a wishlist, a feature request. There is nothing
broken. So while I understand your sentiment, I don't agree with
closing it. Debian is not hiding things. Unfortunately there is no tag
in the BTS for "cantfix". As stated initially, this bug is probably
long term.

> > Thanks for your answer anyhow.
> Please contact Alioth team, or find someone willing to push it thru,
> else we can't do anything but close this report.

As stated above, I'll see what I can do but meanwhile I would object
closing the bugs.



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