[Secure-testing-team] [Secure-testing-commits] r14905 - data/CVE

Nico Golde debian-secure-testing+ml at ngolde.de
Mon Jul 5 22:38:42 UTC 2010


Hi,
* Michael Gilbert <michael.s.gilbert at gmail.com> [2010-07-05 22:32]:
> On Mon, 5 Jul 2010 19:37:50 +0200 Nico Golde wrote:
> > * Michael Gilbert <gilbert-guest at alioth.debian.org> [2010-06-25 09:49]:
> > [...] 
> > > @@ -20840,7 +20926,8 @@
> > >  CVE-2009-0375 (Buffer overflow in a DLL file in RealNetworks RealPlayer 10, ...)
> > >  	NOT-FOR-US: RealPlayer
> > >  CVE-2009-0374 (** DISPUTED ** ...)
> > > -	- chromium-browser (unimportant)
> > > +	- chromium-browser <unfixed> (low)
> > > +	- webkit <not-affected> (poc doesn't work)
> > 
> > Every serious security researcher/enthusiast should question himself if a note 
> > such as "poc doesn't work" is acceptable. Imho it's not, it's a PoC, nothing 
> > more. If a PoC doesn't work that doesn't mean there is no vulnerability. Such 
> > notes are also not acceptable for the security tracker. If it can't work 
> > because of something else or there is more reasoning behind that, please note 
> > it and be verbose.
> 
> transfering the discussion from irc since i just found the topic
> brough up here as well.
> 
> disclaimer: the case under consideration has been deemed unimportant.

disclaimer: i didn't work on this particular issue, i just read the references 
and advisory.

> in this particular case (as with many chrome CVEs), the only reference
> available is the proof-of-concept.  lacking any other source of
> information, direct testing of the poc is really the only thing that
> can be done.
> 
> also, in this particular case, testing the poc makes it very clear that
> chrome is affected whereas webkit is not.  i tested other webkit-based
> browsers and they take me to yahoo when clicking the malicious link (as
> specified when hovered over), but chrome takes me to a non-yahoo link
> (even though it says yahoo when hovered over).

This contradicts to what Guiseppe wrote in his mail stating that the PoC works 
with *no* browser and this is a perfect example on why this description should 
be more verbose.

[...] 
> if there is concrete evidence that this is insufficient, i am willing
> to reconsider, but at this point, i'm not convinced.

I think my other mail in reply to Guiseppe already answers the rest. This mail 
was not meant to enforce a description policy, but I'm sure we can do better.

Cheers
Nico
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