[Shootout-list] Stuff

[Isaac Gouy]

--- Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:

> On Friday 22 April 2005 16:42, Isaac Gouy wrote:
> > The mystery is why you "don't want to do" it on a website that's
> > always been about including a wild range of languages - GAWK to
> > Haskell.
> 
> We need to ossify "a wide range of languages": My guess is that all
> of my 
> programs should be implementable in D, SML, C#, OCaml, C++, Lisp,
> Java, 
> Haskell, Lua, Scheme, Perl, Python and Felix. Is that wide enough?
> 
> The main missing languages are C, Fortran and Pascal because I don't
> think the 
> necessary data structures will be easy enough to implement in those 
> languages, but I may be wrong. Other data structures can be
> substituted but 
> are likely to be slower.
> 
> I don't want to "change" the problems to make it easy to implement
> them in C 
> and Fortran as the problems will no longer represent anything
> relevant or 
> useful.

Does the Shootout exist to present problems from your book?


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> > Obviously, absence of implementation is not evidence that an
> > implementation is even difficult, let alone impossible.
> 
> It is not proof. I take it to be evidence.

If you wish to be foolish I'll not argue :-)


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> For non-trivial tasks, it will be impractical to restrict
> implementations to using identical data structures and algorithms. 

That could be one of the reasons why the Shootout deals in trivial
tasks.


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> I agree with what Ralph said there.

He seems to be far more interested in apples-to-apples. 


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> By "geared up for Fortran" I mean it is a simple array-based
> numerical algorithm which, I believe, is enforced by the benchmark
> specification rather than objectively selected as the most
appropriate
> method (which it probably is because the task is too simple to be
> representative of most scientific computing).

Let's see - you say it's probably the most appropriate method *and* you
say that there's a specification which enforces some kind of bias to
Fortran?

Does it claim somewhere that the task is supposed to be representative
of most scientific computing?

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