[Shootout-list] Ray tracer
Isaac Gouy
igouy2@yahoo.com
Sat, 18 Jun 2005 08:45:37 -0700 (PDT)
--- Jon Harrop <jon@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
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> Ultimately: Trying to enforce your own subjective belief of
> equivalence will detract from the objectivity of the shootout, not
add
> to it.
Seems like you just did enforce your own subjective belief!
The ray-tracer programs started out with the same algorithm. Some of us
wasted our time working on missing interpreted/bytecode languages to
get ray-tracer off The Sandbox and onto the main pages, and then others
started contributing programs in the usual way - and now you've
pulled-the-rug from under them.
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> > If two different algorithms (and two
> > different data structures, etc.) are compared, how
> > can we determine what amount of the delta in
> > performance is due to algorithms versus the compiler
> > implementation?
>
> Users can profile the implementations to determine where the time is
> actually spent.
In other words, no one looking at ray-tracer on the website will have
the slightest idea whether some programs simply use a better algorithm.
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> I appreciate the desire to compare seemingly equivalent programs but
> this is simply not possible in general and, consequently, must be
> dismissed.
We do compare "seemingly" equivalent programs.
We deal with the particular, not the general.
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