[Yaird-devel] Interested to help
Jonas Smedegaard
dr at jones.dk
Wed Oct 24 11:22:34 UTC 2007
Hi Andrei (and others listening too),
Sorry for the late response :-(
Andrei Popescu skrev:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007 at 09:56:35PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Being "not a coder" is relative. I don't consider myself a "coder"
>> either - but rather a "packager" and a "scripter".
>>
>> Are you familiar with creating diffs and applying patches? With
>> compiling a package made by others? With pulling source out of a
>> subversion repository?
>
> I've done it before (I'm also in the Romanian translators team and work
> on the site), but I wouldn't say I'm familiar.
In other words, such tasks is not alien to you and won't scare you away?
That was my point! :-D
>> If interested
>> in helping with the screening of non-subscriber posts, I'll send you the
>> administration password privately.
>
> You could encrypt it as well.
Mailinglist administration goes on unencrypted anyway, but yes, I have
now sent you the password encrypted.
Using the commandline program listadmin is much easier than web-based
admin. Install the Debian package listadmin and put the following in the
.listadmin.ini file:
default discard
adminurl http://{domain}/mailman/admindb/{list}
password <put it here>
yaird-devel at lists.alioth.debian.org
>> Tell me what you want to work on :-)
>
> Let's start with bug/mailing list triage and we'll take it from there.
Great!
> Just so you know. The yaird package and I have a history :) Two years
> ago when I started using Debian (sarge was at r0) I didn't want to stick
> with sarge so I upgraded directly to sid. All was fine until after a few
> weeks I got hit by a yaird bug which would make an unbootable initrd and
> I had no spare kernel (now I always keep 2 or 3 installed ;). With a
> little help from the debian-user list I repaired my install by chrooting
> from a Knoppix disk. I'm running sid ever since.
I've been bitten like that too. I think a lot of testing users have.
I would want to make a small Debian package that registers itself as a
ramdisk generator, depends on both yaird and initramfs-tools, and
generates *both* styles, with (maybe debconf-selectable) yaird as
default. That way you would have the reliability of yaird, but also the
flexibility of initramfs-tools as a backup (when a disk controller crash
and your spare one use a different driver). How do you think about that?
Oh, and I discourage using Knoppix. Use Debian-installer instead - that
is closer to a regular Debian system with less risks of odd surprises.
> About one year ago I changed my laptop so I took the opportunity to make
> a clean sid install. When I was selecting packages I stumbled on yaird
> (initramfs-tools was installed by default) so I installed it again
> because I like the concept of a software built to optimize as much as
> possible. The universal initrd is for people who have no idea of kernel
> modules, ... I'm not very fond of universal solutions, I'm using the
> software that suits my needs, like yaird, mutt, vim, IceWM, postfix,
> getmail, maildrop (though I recommend KDE to novices).
Sounds like you are a minimalist like me :-)
For comparison I use ion3 (not IceWM), mc (not vim) and recommend Gnome
(not KDE). And I use aptitude with its builtin tracking of automatically
vs. manually selected packages, to always keep the systems as tight as
possible.
I recently changed the long description of yaird to make it more obvious
when it makes sense to use that in favor of initramfs-tools. Your
wording above is good - could you perhaps look at the current package
description and see if it could be improved/clarified even further?
- Jonas
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