[Blend-fluxbox-devel] brainstorming

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting arpinux (2016-01-16 07:42:41)
> On 16/01/16 03:02, Stephan Foley wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 4:16 PM, Jonas Smedegaard <dr at jones.dk> 
>> wrote:
>>> Quoting Stephan Foley (2016-01-14 00:13:43)
>>>> Question: when installing, should we look into "no recommends" for 
>>>> things like xorg and lightdm?
>>> 
>>> No!  It is *not* sensible to blindly suppress recommends - Debian 
>>> just isn't designed for that.  Each case needs to be considered 
>>> individually!
[...]
>> If we were going to use no-recommends, we would have to list out the 
>> recommends and figure out what each is for.

There is no "if": Generally suppressing recommends creates *broken* 
systems!


> i've always builded ISO with the no-recommends options but i made that 
> because i often mix applications from various desktop environment, so 
> i didn't want to have all the GNOME DE while installing file-roller 
> for instance.

The proper way to mix multiple desktops in a non-bloated way is to avoid 
the metapackages for the various desktops and instead install the 
underlying real packages.

If a non-meta package recommends rather than suggests stuff that really 
is not needed in "most but not all usecases" then file a bugreport 
against that package, kindly requesting to relax the relationship!


> but in other hand, if we choose independant applications, we don't 
> need to take care about the no-recommends option ;)

We *never* need to care about generally suppressing recommends: It 
causes broken systems, and anyone experiencing a bug in such system will 
have a hard time reporting bugs in Debian.  Just don't!


> so, the best way to join our way or build, is to make the best choice 
> with the applications.
> for instance, lxappearance is perfect for theming, but fluxbox can do
> it itself ;)
> tint2 is a good panel, but fluxbox has its own...
> if we can cutomize the fluxbox default menu, most of regular actions
> could be provide by dynamic menu entries :)

Yes! :-)

 - Jonas

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