[D-community-discuss] About Jabber & debian-community.org

[Holger Levsen]

Hi,

On Saturday 25 October 2008 23:00, Geoffroy Youri B. wrote:
> I subscribed, no need to cc, thanks :)

ok, good :)

> Maybe something to do in the future.
> I mean plan a campaign to promote d-c.org

Definitly, I just never came around to it...

> d-c.o is not mentioned on the DebianForNonCoderContributors wiki page [0],
> is that something to fix ? There is a section that seems appropriate: 6.
> Users and Developers
>
> Likewise on Community[1] page.

I'd love it if you could mention d-c.org there... (as written above, I 
seriously lack time...I'd be happy to review it though :)

> Alright I do understand and anyway we would need a team to handle it
> properly, at least two or three people to ensure there is a minimum
> presence in order to reply/react in case of need (based on my own
> experience on other chat room).

Yup, something like that. It doenst have to be perfect...


> > (And I
> > believe that if Debian (community) provides a space for something someone
> > should make sure it's a space according to Debians standards...)
> I completely agree concerning Debian standards compliance.

Yay!

> What I've been thinking about d-c.o and already existing jabber MUC is that
> we could include them on the jabber section to point out chat rooms where
> people can find help and a community of debian users (as I already done in
> wiki.d.o). It seems to be the appropriate place since you also provide a
> JabberID @d-c.o (which is, by the way, something we could add to
> wiki.d.o/Jabber).
>
> I'm pretty sure both debian-fr at chat.jabberfr.fr and
> debian at conference.jabber.org meet the main requirement of d-c "niceness"
> (I've been chatting on the first one for quite a long time and I /own/ the
> second - my jabber affiliation for that muc). Concerning the others they
> already accepted to be mentioned in wiki.d.o but I'm not sure they are
> purely Debian related.
>
> That would be a good starting point before setting up conference support on
> the server. It may show us the real need for jabber chat room hosted at
> d-c.o. For instance I know there is no jabber chat room for spanish users,
> it might be hosted at d-c.o if somebody look for it.

Sounds good. 

How to setup a room? (using ejabberd)

I also just learned that the latest bitlbee version supports jabber chat 
rooms, so I'll be able to join :)

> But before going any further could you precise to what king of debian user
> were you willing to offer a jabber account on d-c.o ? It is written :
>
> 	"You should be somehow related to Debian and obey the rule "Be nice.."
>
> which is a bit fuzzy :) Is there a kind of "minimum
> commitment/participation" level required ? 

Not really (defined+written down). "Some" visible contributions I'd say. Be it 
bug reports, patches, translations, booth/event activity...

> I do understand the necessity of 
> a minimum involvement to have a strong an active community.

Yup. 

What would you suggest to write down as minimum?

> But for sure having a JID @debian-comunity.org or an email is a great way
> to provide people the feeling of a community, especially for people like me
> not involve in development process. I do believe this is something badly
> missing in Debian project.

:) Thanks.


regards,
	Holger
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