Fwd: Re: Wayland in Debian / About Window Buttons and Menu Bars

[Linux-Fan]

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Subject: Re: Wayland in Debian / About Window Buttons and Menu Bars
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2014 01:29:04 +0200
From: Linux-Fan <Ma_Sys.ma at web.de>
Organization: Ma_Sys.ma
To: d-community-offtopic at lists.alioth.debian.org

On 04/16/2014 06:16 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

[...]

> And a serious question, perhaps OT, but we never know.

The question directly asks for opinion and is not really Debian-related
-- it could be asked on another Linux mailing list or even about Windows
applications. Still I also consider it an interesting question.

> Do you like the trend to drop window title bars, resp. to drop window
> buttons and to drop menu bars?

These are three different questions.

1. IMO window title bars are useful to provide information like the
   page title or opened file or the terminal name or such and are
   therefore useful as long as they are not provided by a different
   means (for example browser tabs or VIM status line or some people's
   shell prompts)
2. The usefulness of window buttons depends on the window manager.
   Currently, I use Spectrwm which offers no window buttons. Instead, I
   close windows with [WIN]-[X], maximize windows with
   [WIN]-[SHIFT]-[3], [WIN]-[3] (move window to workspace 3 and open
   workspace 3) or [WIN]-[SPACE] (cycle layout) and minimize windows
   using [WIN]-[W]. As you can see, graphical buttons are not required.
3. Concerning the menu bars. Although I try to avoid complex graphical
   applications more and more, I still use some, for example Iceweasel,
   Icedove, Libreoffice and JEdit. Menus make the large set of these
   programs' features available which is why I consider them useful.
   Differently worded: Dropping menu bars from complex and graphical
   applications is *bad* IMHO.

> www.another-bloated-desktop-conspiracy-question-mark.neverneverland

:) From my point of view an OT list is OK for such questions.

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