[D-m-team] Giving people time to react (Re: debian-maintainers_1.17_i386.changes ACCEPTED)

[Lex Spoon]

On Jan 29, 2008, at 2:27 PM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
> On Tue Jan 29 13:16, Lex Spoon wrote:
>> On Jan 29, 2008, at 4:24 AM, Matthew Johnson wrote:
>>> I strongly agree with Christoph. As it is I am of the opinion  
>>> that it is
>>> too easy to get DM rights (particularly given the number of  
>>> people who
>>> said 'it ought to take 3 months to become a DD' in response to my
>>> suggestions of NM reform). One of the things which tempers that  
>>> is the
>>> public way in which DMs are proposed, giving people the  
>>> opportunity to
>>> review the DM and react.
>>
>>
>> Can you explain why you and Christoph think it is too easy to get DM
>> rights?
>
> It may be worth referring to my original post to -newmaint[0] and my
> wiki page on the subject[1]. I think that the DM applications  
> should be
> managed through the same overall process as NM and should require an
> (abbreviated) set of checks in the same style as NM. I think the  
> current
> NM process is too lengthy (mainly in administrative overhead, and it's
> not as bad now that DM exists), but I think that DM is an overreaction
> in the other direction.

Thanks for the links, but I have a hard time interpreting them as a  
reform of DM.  It sounds like you are advocating for more of a fairly  
different DM process.   That is interesting but I don't think it is  
very productive in this forum.  Let's focus in this forum on making   
the DM setup we have work as well as possible.


>
>> No system is going to result in perfect uploads.  The goal is to  
>> balance
>> good uploads versus timely uploads.  If there has really been only  
>> one
>> controversial upload by a DM, then that seems like a very good  
>> track record
>> in practice.  It would be hard to improve on such a low rate of bad
>> uploads.
>
> It's not exactly been going for very long, and one every few months I
> would say is quite high...

At some point we just have to agree to disagree.  I think one every  
few months is extraordinarily good, so good that it would be better  
to focus on other quality axes.

I fully agree with you that the experiment is young.  Time will have  
to tell whether this keeps up.


-Lex