[gopher] Should we be mirroring Gopher sites via FTP?

[Kim Holviala]

We didn't decide... so I just did straight up gopher-over-TLS (no STARTLS though) running on randomly chosen port 7070. And as far as I know there are no clients which would support the gophers// protocol.


- Kim



> On 17 Sep 2017, at 03:59, James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au> wrote:
> 
> Wait.... There are gopher TLS holes? Did we decide on how this works already?
> 
> cheers
> James
> 
> 
> James Mills / prologic
> 
> E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au <mailto:prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au <http://prologic.shortcircuit.net.au/>
> 
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mr. Leveck <leveck at leveck.us <mailto:leveck at leveck.us>> wrote:
> Out of curiosity what clients properly handle gophers:// ?
> 
> I will have some spare time coming up next week... looks like I will be getting a cert. Maybe gopher.leveck.us <http://gopher.leveck.us/> (yeah, all my subdomains point to the same DSL router) will be the second TLS gopher site.
> -- 
> Leveck
> 
> 16. Sep 2017 10:15 by kim at holviala.com <mailto:kim at holviala.com>:
> 
> 
> Not even going offtopic since Gophernicus - The Most Awesome(tm) gopher server \o/ - actually supports TLS and the only existing TLS-enabled gopher server (gophers://gophernicus.org:7070/ <http://gophernicus.org:7070/>) runs on a free Let's Encrypt certificate.
> 
> I was really against the whole thing until start of this year when my existing certs were due to renewal. So being slightly autistic I wrote down the steps to renew a cert between the traditional way vs. up and coming Let's Encrypt that I hated. 
> 
> That was not even a competition... and yes, it's fully scritable - I've got a simple bash script running form /etc/cron.monthly/ to renew the cert every two months (they're valid for three). As long as Let's Encrypt is operational I never ever have to do anything to renew. Nada.
> 
> 
> - Kim
> 
> 
> On 16 Sep 2017, at 19:08, Mr. Leveck <leveck at leveck.us <mailto:leveck at leveck.us>> wrote:
> 
> I have looked at Let's Encrypt in the past. There is quite a bit of smack talk floating around vis-a-vis this service particularly because it is free. Every single free cert I have seen in the last 20 years eventually shut down due to misuse by idiots. I guess I'll grab one while it is still around...
> 
> Is renewing the LE cert scriptable or is this just something that will need a calendar entry and a reminder?
> 
> -- 
> Leveck
> 
> 16. Sep 2017 02:38 by irl at fsfe.org <mailto:irl at fsfe.org>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On 16/09/17 05:47, Stephen Kellat wrote:
> RFC 4217 comes to mind at this point & I wonder if letsencrypt.org <http://letsencrypt.org/> supports that perchance.
> 
> By putting some records into the DNS, yes it is possible to have a cert
> issued for a domain name that will then work for any service, including
> FTPS or even some form of Gopher/TLS if such a thing exists.
> 
> Personally I've used the certs for mail servers, FTP servers, XMPP
> servers as well as many many web servers.
> 
> Thanks,
> Iain.
> 
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