[gopher] Should we be mirroring Gopher sites via FTP?

James Mills prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
Sun Sep 17 07:33:55 UTC 2017


Oh nice! I'll make https://github.com/prologic/go-gopher support this! That
also means https://github.com/prologic/gopherproxy and
https://github.com/prologic/gopherclient (which I want to port to Electron)


James Mills / prologic

E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:01 AM, Kim Holviala <kim at holviala.com> wrote:

> We didn't decide... so I just did straight up gopher-over-TLS (no STARTLS
> though) running on randomly chosen port 7070. And as far as I know there
> are no clients which would support the gophers// protocol.
>
>
> - Kim
>
>
>
> On 17 Sep 2017, at 03:59, James Mills <prologic at shortcircuit.net.au>
> wrote:
>
> Wait.... There are gopher TLS holes? Did we decide on how this works
> already?
>
> cheers
> James
>
>
> James Mills / prologic
>
> E: prologic at shortcircuit.net.au
> W: prologic.shortcircuit.net.au
>
> On Sat, Sep 16, 2017 at 3:01 PM, Mr. Leveck <leveck at leveck.us> wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity what clients properly handle gophers:// ?
>>
>> I will have some spare time coming up next week... looks like I will be
>> getting a cert. Maybe gopher.leveck.us (yeah, all my subdomains point to
>> the same DSL router) will be the second TLS gopher site.
>> --
>> Leveck
>>
>> 16. Sep 2017 10:15 by kim at holviala.com:
>>
>>
>> Not even going offtopic since Gophernicus - The Most Awesome(tm) gopher
>> server \o/ - actually supports TLS and the only existing TLS-enabled gopher
>> server (gophers://gophernicus.org:7070/) runs on a free Let's Encrypt
>> certificate.
>>
>> I was really against the whole thing until start of this year when my
>> existing certs were due to renewal. So being slightly autistic I wrote down
>> the steps to renew a cert between the traditional way vs. up and coming
>> Let's Encrypt that I hated.
>>
>> That was not even a competition... and yes, it's fully scritable - I've
>> got a simple bash script running form /etc/cron.monthly/ to renew the cert
>> every two months (they're valid for three). As long as Let's Encrypt is
>> operational I never ever have to do anything to renew. Nada.
>>
>>
>> - Kim
>>
>>
>> On 16 Sep 2017, at 19:08, Mr. Leveck <leveck at leveck.us> wrote:
>>
>> I have looked at Let's Encrypt in the past. There is quite a bit of smack
>> talk floating around vis-a-vis this service particularly because it is
>> free. Every single free cert I have seen in the last 20 years eventually
>> shut down due to misuse by idiots. I guess I'll grab one while it is still
>> around...
>>
>> Is renewing the LE cert scriptable or is this just something that will
>> need a calendar entry and a reminder?
>>
>> --
>> Leveck
>>
>> 16. Sep 2017 02:38 by irl at fsfe.org:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 16/09/17 05:47, Stephen Kellat wrote:
>>
>> RFC 4217 comes to mind at this point & I wonder if letsencrypt.org
>> supports that perchance.
>>
>>
>> By putting some records into the DNS, yes it is possible to have a cert
>> issued for a domain name that will then work for any service, including
>> FTPS or even some form of Gopher/TLS if such a thing exists.
>>
>> Personally I've used the certs for mail servers, FTP servers, XMPP
>> servers as well as many many web servers.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Iain.
>>
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