"Ta page est nulle parce qu'elle est pas compatible avec mon browser programmé en 1870"

Wed Dec 2 21:02:21 UTC 2009

Jeremy Cowgar <jeremy at cowgar.com> a écrit :

> About the Poll, the question should be "How did you learn about  
> Lisaac?" or "How did you find Lisaac?"
>
> I think the website looks great and that it's a major upgrade from  
> the previous website. The previous website was very distracting and  
> left a poor image of Lisaac.
>
> About requiring JavaScript... JavaScript is nice but many people do  
> not use it, not just Mildred. I am unsure why but being in web  
> development, it is certainly true. When JavaScript is used, it's  
> best to provide a fall back so that a non-Javascript browser can  
> still navigate. I know this is difficult and impedes progress, so I  
> wouldn't get too bent out of shape about it.
>
> There are numerous other English errors on the website. For  
> instance, "begin to discover his world of stunning abilities"... Was  
> that suppose to be "this world" or "our world" ? ... "Do not waste a  
> second" is OK, but it would be better written as "Do not waste  
> another second".
>
> Jeremy
>

We would need you to improve English of the site,
if you can help us, it would be cool!

PS: Farzad, can you give an access to Jeremy??

Benoit.

>
> From: Farzad Sehat
> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 3:42 PM
> To: Discussion about technical development topics
> Subject: Re: "Ta page est nulle parce qu'elle est pas compatible  
> avec mon browser programmé en 1870"
>
>
> I am agree and I'm agree and I'm agree with you Pierre-Alexandre
>
> M. Farzad Sehat
> farzad.sehat at gmail.com
>
>
>
> Le 2 décembre 2009 21:27, Pierre-Alexandre Voye  
> <ontologiae at gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>   I'm agree with Farzad : this site is not disturbing according to  
> 2009's web standard.
>   Javascript is now and more and more a natural part of a webpage, I  
> don't undertand why some dinosaurs want to continue to avoid it, or  
> others thing like prefering lynx to a normal browser.
>
>   I'm agree on
>   -  We don't need logo scrolling
>
>   about your position, I propose you to read that :  
> http://www.tsgk.net/cowboyz/ddr.html
>   And particularly the section "LES LINUXIENS"
>
>
>   2009/12/2 Mildred Ki'Lya <ml.mildred593 at gmail.com>
>
>     Hi,
>
>     (WARNING: don't be put off by these remarks. I'm not saying the website
>     is bad, just that it could be improved)
>
>     I did not took part in the conversation about the wallpaper but I think
>     there is a point here, that I feel from some time about the Lisaac
>     website. To put it simply, I think there is too much Javascript in that
>     website, and it is too much animated.
>
>
>
>     First, I think Javascript should NOT be required for the Lisaac website.
>     Why ?
>
>     Because some people (like me) don't allow JavaScript globally and only
>     allow websites from a whitelist. The main advantage of doing so is that
>     you get away from most of the advertisement and nasty things found on
>     modern webpages.
>
>     I don't say not to use Javascript, just not make it mandatory for the
>     website.
>
>
>
>     Now, if I do enable Javascript, I find the front page too much animated.
>     All those effects are nice but get in the way of the user in the end.
>     And it also from my point of view it gives a childish appearance to the
>     website. It makes me remember of all those website that included too
>     much JavaScript (back when JavaScript was a novelty).
>
>     What I think should be removed:
>
>     - The logos scrolling. You really don't care about them most of the time
>     and it draw your eyes to this area.
>
>     - The animation on the menus is pretty disturbing to me. i much more
>     prefer to have the menu popping open. And with the animation, it makes
>     me wonder if my computer is slow when I focus on "Downloads" since it
>     doesn't have a menu. Again, it draw your eyes to the expanding corner of
>     the menu where there is nothing interesting instead of the content of
>     the menu. So, for a millisecond, you are busy trying to focus on a
>     moving menu.
>
>     - About the fading news on the front page. This is not as much of a
>     problem as the two points I mentioned above. But without Javascript,
>     it's like mess. I think it would be much better to create a bullet point
>     list allowing the user to see what happened. Fading news are nice but
>     you don't know which is first, which is last. And you end up not reading
>     them at all. Also, when yyou click on an arrow to show the next/previous
>     news, you have to wait for the news to appear, and the impatient visitor
>     won't wait for that long. And, is that normal the news always end with
>     "..."?
>
>     - In comunity -> Team, I don't think we should have a fancy view at all.
>     Especially if it plays sound (that's annoying) and especially if it's
>     the only way to access more detailled information about team members
>     (photo, CV, ...). Again, this doesn't help with the professional image
>     of the website.
>
>
>     Now, other things:
>
>     - The poll, is that really useful? I don't say it's not, but...
>     - Why cares how many people are visiting the website? This is not a
>     comunity website (like a forum) where we might want to out  
> friends online.
>     - If you ask me, the second wallpaper shouldn't be on the official
>     website. I understand why guys might like it, but please, not here. Your
>     personal website is fine for that.
>     - Documentation -> Library. There should be a note to tell people
>     they're not going to stay on the website. They don't except to be thrown
>     directly in the library browser.
>     - The top of the webpage says "The power of simplicity at work for you".
>     The reflection is a bit too much I think and doesn't help reading the
>     text. Perhaps it could be softened.
>
>
>
>     Now, i do realize this email might sound like a lot of critics, and
>     please excuse me for that. This website is a wonderful initiative (even
>     if I do prefer on a personal level static webpages generated
>     automatically). I don't say it's not good. I just say it can be
>     improved, and hopefully my remarks are constructive.
>
>
>     If I should ask for a feature in that website, I would ask for the
>     ability to add pages using a markdown syntax (or similar, I don't really
>     care). Preferably, without having to use a web interface (I just hate
>     web interface). I do prefer plain old protocols like ssh or rsync.
>
>     Mildred
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