[pkg-fso-maint] fso: state of packaging?

[Sebastian Reichel]

On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 04:46:59PM +0200, arne anka wrote:
> another weekend and neither new packages nor any information what's
> happening. looking into git i see, that something somewhere happens.
> but no packages appear.
> at least someone has to be using debian with 5.5, hasn't he?

I got some fso-usaged updates in the last days and now its working
like a charm :) (thanks Heiko!)

> fsousaged still segfaults and i don't really see, if there's
> anything to gain from waiting.

mh this is strange, for me it's working since the last update from
some days ago. Are you sure, that you upgraded to the latest version
of fso-usaged? On my FR apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get install
fso-usaged was needed, because it adds a new package libgee1.

> could some please line out the order in which to build packages from
> git (or tell if it is possible at all to build a working fso in
> debian currently)?
> then i would try to build my own packages, hoping to eventually get
> my fr up and running again.

actually it should work at the moment just with old frameworkd and
up2date fso-usaged. The only "old" thing is the framework itself. I
can't tell you much about this package.

> and btw, could someone please explain, why new packages are delayed
> that much? there have been messages from soem debian robot about
> adding new packages and yet, i don't really see progress.

the debian robot you are talking about sent messages, that
fso-usaged and the dependencies of it have been uploaded to debian
main. You can see the progress @ [1].

> is it simply a matter of manpower?
> or is debian's protracted quality management work flow the cause?

above all: manpower!

> it would be really nice to have some clear information about
> - the time line

due to lack of man power: it's done when it's done :(

> - the causes for delay

joachim and luca are currently not very active. At the moment Heiko
Stübner is the only one working on FSO and he is no official debian
developer, so he needs a developer for uploads, which again adds
some delay ;)

> to be exactly clear: i'm happy that you guys do all the work with
> fso on debian, i appreciate it very much and i don't want to blame
> anyone or so.
> but i simply wonder, what's the hold up, seeing shr releasing
> packages in a much shorter intervall.

SHR guys have much more manpower. If you take a look at [2] you will
see there are not many persons in the pkg-fso group. And from the
group the project admins, which did a large proportion of the work,
are not available at the moment. So basically we are at most 5 more
or less active developers.

Having said this I can give you some more information:

 * heiko told in one of his last mails, that he will take a look at
   the framework package and try updating it to MS5.5 (joachim and
   luca did this before)
 * I plan to package shr packages (shr-dialer, shr-contacts, ...),
   but I need to package etk first, so it needs some time

[1] http://packages.debian.org/sid/fso-usaged
[2] https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-fso/

-- Sebastian
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