[pkg-kolab] Re: State of debian packages?

Johannes Graumann graumann at biochem.mpg.de
Mon Mar 19 20:01:14 CET 2007

I'd like to chime in here too ... I was trying A LOT to setup Kolab according 
to the howto coming with the debs - must have been around 20 times or so ... 
I even wrote a python script to exclude manual error from the process ... and 
did never succeed in a way that would tell me "you succeeded". I ended up 
switching to the openpkg distro in combination with debians nullmailer 
package. It turned out in the end, that the last bit that made me suspect 
that the debian-based installation didn't work (no ssled ldap access) was 
actually a bug/feature/callitwhatyawant of kolab and also present in the 
openpkg install, but the openpkg config took me about 10 min and I was happy 
owner of a running groupware server ... nothing in comparison to the ordeal I 
went through in my stubborn debian-discipleship before ...

The packages need an installation script if they are to be of any use to the 
uninitiated. Don't know though, whether there's any interest for that  ...

Cheers, Joh

On Monday 19 March 2007 14:25, Esteban Adrián Pérez wrote:
> Dear friends,
> I agree with you about what you are discussing in this chain...
> I´m a "newbie" about all concerning to getting functional a groupware
> server...
> I´ve not the "urgency" in getting it functional right now as I´m trying to
> migrate from a mdaemon over a W2AS, so when my job lets me do it, I go on
> with the "journey to setup a kolab server" ;)
> I know that it´s not your primary goal to teach the people how to setup up
> a domain, neither a mail server nor a ldap server. But, some links to
> HowTo´s for dummies will be helpfull... Just a suggerence...:
> In "google" you can find at least 2 ways to install kolab, one using
> openpkg and the other one is the way you suggest (I started with my left
> foot, but the chances are 50/50) and I knew your way thanks to posting my
> first answer in this list.
> But this is the end of the road, I must learn in my own way how to setup up
> a lot of files just using the "old fashion" method: try & error... (thanks
> Google! and howtoforge!)
> Please, read this as an experience and not as a criticism: don´t be obscure
> if you want to give light!... M$ mastered that, and I want to live to see
> Linux installed in 51% of de pc´s of the world!
> And I´m one of those who just use aptitude or apt-get to install, update or
> upgrade my Debian...
> I´ve nothing against other methods.. but... would you just tell us (the
> newbies) how to do it? perhaps in your site, your list, or in your
> "package".. but, please, teach us how to do it! don´t keep that data in
> secret!...
> Please, share with us how to get your development functional, that is the
> only way to make it popular and to get a lot of debugers working for you
> and keep your development working!...
> Thanks in advance, and pls accept my appologies if my words hurt any
> feelings... they are far away from that...
> Regards...
> Esteban...
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