[Pkg-ltsp-devel] current upload and bug status

Petter Reinholdtsen pere at hungry.com
Wed Aug 9 15:20:08 UTC 2006


[Vagrant Cascadian]
>    3) #356986: ltsp-server: ltsp should not be dependent on sound
> 
> i would like to move the ltsp-server dependency on "esound-clients"
> to a recommends, and add it as a dependency on
> ltsp-server-standalone. it's not truely necessary to have sound on
> the clients, even if it may be the default.

To me, this is a question of how many steps should be required to
enable sound support.  At the moment, it is a single switch in
lts.conf, and it isn't enabled by default.  I believe that is how it
should be, perhaps with some extra code to detect if sound hardware is
available and enable it automatically if it is.

The bug reporter on the other hand seem to take the approach that
everything that isn't strictly and technically required to get ltsp
running should not be listed as a dependency.  I believe that approach
is doing our users a dis-service.  The only advantage is saving a few
bytes in the chroot and on the ltsp server, and I believe that
advantage is minor compared to the extra support load generated by
trying to explain to a school sysadmin that he first need to install
some packages on the server, then in the client chroot, and then
enable sound support in lts.conf and hope he didn't run into any
problems with broken apt sources, broken CDs, inaccesible networks
etc.

Would you be able to guide your grandmother through this procedure on
the phone?  If yes, you can try with mine as well, and see if the
procedure is simple enough or not.  I would not be able to do that.
Enabling sound in LTSP must be very simple to avoid lots of support
calls to the people supporting the system.  A script do go through the
steps could be created, but there are still all the external forces
affecting the success rate of that script. :/

>    4) #360406: ltsp-server: what's skolelinux?
> 
> in the long-term, we should probably use a debconf question
> (preseedable) to set up the preferred alternative. at the moment,
> it's hard-coded for debian-edu/skolelinux. the debian theme looks
> stupid, but maybe would be better to make that default, and try to
> find some artist to write a better debian theme?

I would love this to be preseedable.  The drawings I made are ugly,
and need to be replaced with something nice.  A new package
debian-edu-artwork is probably the correct package to put the ldm
background image in, but we also need to figure out a way to make such
"extra" packages override the images at install time like the grub and
usplash packages allow.

>    5) #360409: ltsp-server: there's no sample dhcp conf in the doc
> 
> would anyone be opposed to including the dhcpd.conf file in
> /usr/share/doc/ltsp-server/examples ? this might be helpful to some
> users, even if we include the same file in ltsp-server-standalone.

No strong opinion, but believe this should be synchronized with the
ubuntu maintainers.



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