[Pkg-mc-devel] launchpad noise?

Dmitry Smirnov onlyjob at member.fsf.org
Mon Mar 12 04:25:24 UTC 2012


Please excuse my grumbling, but given the recent flood from LP, I thought that 
we may have double-standards problem here.

When we work with upstream, we don't blindly forward every bug report we get, 
and forwarding the whole bug tracker communication to upstream seems totally 
inappropriate.

Ubuntu people have two options - either forward the bugs they're concerned 
about to us, or directly to our upstream.

Instead we're forced to read through mostly irrelevant LP communication here.

What if all our derivatives start to forward their message exchange to us?

I recognise this practice as wrong in principle. If interested parties from 
Ubuntu are subscribed here, they can certainly post some important information 
if they believe we should know it. (Or for example CC here when they reply to 
their bugs).

Of course I'm not following this mail-list long enough to recall some really 
useful information we could possibly get through LP subscription, but so far 
IMHO the potential benefits from LP subscription are outweigh by junk-mail-
like stream of worthless messages.

Here I would like to refer to our derivatives guidelines:

  http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines#Bug_reports

It will be better to stop our LP subscription and encourage communication 
between humans which we're substituting with automatic messaging at the 
moment.

Regards,
Dmitry.


On Tue, 28 Feb 2012 23:59:52 Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:33:45PM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > Just wondering, why are we getting all this launchpad noise from their
> > bug tracker here?
> > 
> > It doesn't belong here and it is polluting our mail list archive.
> 
> As far as I would see it it would make sense to verify bugs in Ubuntu as
> well because they are using the same version of mc as we.  By chance
> quite recently before you stepped in here the "Ubuntu-noise" triggered
> some action / clarification and thus I rather consider it productive.  I
> also would expect that Maarten who started a similar effort in Ubuntu
> like you inside Debian will cleen up LP bug reports and the current
> noise might turn out as helpful hints for us as well.
> 
> > Who can stop it?
> 
> I'd recommend bearing with the noise for about two weeks and if it keeps
> on beeing boring we should ask again for making it less verbose.
> 
> Kind regards
> 
>        Andreas.



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