[Pkg-mc-devel] launchpad noise?

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi Dmitry,

All changes in the bug reports from Launchpad are being forwarded to
pkg-mc-devel@ list automatically, because I have set it up such that
every time there is a change in bug status all members of pkg-mc-devel
team at Ubuntu are notified:

https://launchpad.net/~pkg-mc-devel

and this team is in turn linked to pkg-mc at Debian.

On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 15:25 +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote: 
> Please excuse my grumbling, but given the recent flood from LP, I thought that 
> we may have double-standards problem here.
> 
> When we work with upstream, we don't blindly forward every bug report we get, 
> and forwarding the whole bug tracker communication to upstream seems totally 
> inappropriate.

This has nothing to do with double standards.

For a couple of years I used to be the sole and the only maintainer of
mc *both* in Ubuntu and in Debian (in fact my interest at the Debian
side of things was mostly due to the desire to reduce the maintenance
overheads for both distributions).

So while I was working on both issue trackers at the same time
cross-referencing the issues and duplicating those that haven't been
filed against the Debian packaging, I found it to be highly practical to
receive both kinds of notifications to the same mailbox (and I still
feel it this way). 

> Ubuntu people have two options - either forward the bugs they're concerned 
> about to us, or directly to our upstream.

Now that Ubuntu-specific deltas have been finally dropped, bugs in
Ubuntu == bugs in Debian packaging in 99% of the cases. I see no harm in
getting more relevant reports which might help to improve the quality of
the package.

You always have the option of null-routing Launchpad-generated traffic
if it annoys you so much.

> Instead we're forced to read through mostly irrelevant LP communication here.

This is/was a temporary outburst following the sync with Debian.

> Of course I'm not following this mail-list long enough to recall some really 
> useful information we could possibly get through LP subscription, but so far 
> IMHO the potential benefits from LP subscription are outweigh by junk-mail-
> like stream of worthless messages.

Quite a lot, like in bugs in the Debian packaging that haven't been
reported by Debian users.

> It will be better to stop our LP subscription and encourage communication 
> between humans which we're substituting with automatic messaging at the 
> moment.

Any more reasons apart from your personal dislike for Ubuntu?

I'd rather keep it the way it is, then at some point I have the option
of working through the whole batch while on the plane / train etc.

-- 
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev