[Pkg-mc-devel] launchpad noise?

[Andreas Tille]

On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:46:45PM +0100, Yury V. Zaytsev wrote:
> I don't see how it's polluting the archive. This traffic is of direct
> relevance to Debian packaging and it doesn't impair the functioning of
> the archive in any way.

I browsed the mails very quicly and had a hard time to get the essence
out of it neither was it clear to me what bug finally was affected to
what BTS it belongs and whether it was open or closed.  So those mails
were the contrary of informative but rather time draining.  Please read:
I'm not against Launchpad auto-mails - I'm against noise and the mails
this afternoon were noise.
 
> > This can hardly excuse not using bug tracker.
> 
> In a perfect world: maybe.
> 
> The reality is that this was not happening, is not happening, and is not
> going to happen anytime soon. Just as not much people care about
> forwarding Debian bugs upstream, for which reason BTS looks the way it
> does.

I understand your reason but we might need to balance what is more
important:  Finding hacks for the fact that some Ubuntu users are to
lazy to check BTS at the cost of loosing active developers like Dmitry
or keep people who are actually fixing bugs in Debian happy and
motivated at the cost of missing some issues inside Ubuntu because
people are not yet comfortable to care for Debian BTS.  I have a clear
preference for the later option specifically because we had some Ubuntu
people here on the list who might take over checking problems reported
in Launchpad.  So I rather trust on personal effort and interest rather
on automatic mails with a high noise level.
 
> I get it that you don't care about bugs in Ubuntu and want them to
> forward things that are relevant to Debian manually (even though most of
> them are) and would rather miss genuine bug reports which are never
> going to be forwarded to Debian, rather than skim through possibly
> unrelated mails.

I did definitely not interpreted Dmitry that way and I do not see a
point in personal accusations of this kind.
 
> This is your *personal* view of the problem. Other subscribers, for
> instance, have also supported the view that in fact, it is of more help
> than a nuisance (Andreas).

It is right that I was asking for patience in this direction however, my
patience is close to exhausted as well because I can not make any sense
out of all these mails.  When such things happen I usually decided that it
is way less time consumming to press repeadedly 'd' to get rid of these
mails rather than discussing about it and finally a procmail rule might
even save me from this.

The problem is if the Launchpad noise leads to personal differences in a
very small team it is destructive enough to kill any further effort and
this has to be prevented by any means.
 
> Since you are the only person actively working on the package right now,
> I will remove the subscription at Launchpad for the time being,

Many thanks for doing so.  Under the given circumstances this is a very
helpful action.  
 
Kind regards

        Andreas.

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