[Pkg-mc-devel] MC 4.8.1-3

[Andreas Tille]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:30:15AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> > Hmmm, I tested this but I'm not that impressed.  Having the option to
> > use 256 instead of 16 colors is OK, but loosing my loved blue background
> > with no purpose is bad.
> 
> Wait a sec, nothing is bad regarding more skins - the default skin is 
> untouched. That's not loosing, that's gaining. :)

Sure.  My wording was a bit sloppy.  For *me* having more than the usual
colors is less important than keeping the less colors which I just like
a lot.  I would probably use a 256 colored version which is derived from
the default colors.

But my personal preference is irrelevant for the packaging for sure.

> But you're saying frame is missing... I checked terminal window settings - 
> it's using "DejaVu Sans Mono"... Maybe a little screenshot would be nice just 
> to get a better understanding of how it appears to you. I'm attaching mine.

We discussed this in the other mail.
 
> > In short 2.+3. are fine, but 1. seems somehow unfinished but harmless (I
> > would not have noticed it).
> 
> Those 256 color skins are indeed very new.

So we should make sure other users will not be trapped by the same
problem I faced.  A new feature which is regarded as broken in the
beginning will loose half of its potential users in the beginning
because those people tend to spread the word "it's broken" even if it is
fixed later.
 
> I could never expect this double lines frames would be so important to you 
> unless something doesn't look well.

I admit the double line makes some sense ... if you can see it. :-)

Your thin themes were a nice move to help me but probably a
missinterpretation of my "dislike".  I can confirm that

   TERM=xterm-256color mc -u --skin modarin256-thin

works fine.  But if it always requires work on your side I'm not sure
whether if it is worth the effort if we can teach users how to get those
double lines properly.

> I imagine replacing those characters with default ones will fix the problem 
> for you.

Yes, it did.
 
> My only concern here is about increased maintenance effort because if I start 
> customising themes we will be shipping more variants and later it may cause 
> inconvenience if we decide to drop some of them.

Yes, that's what I mean above with the extra effort.  So I do not really
want to force you into this.  The only thing might be to report my
problem to upstream skin designers who might not be aware of the problem
I had and let them decide accordingly.

> Please let me know if you want to ship single-lined framed modifications.
> Certainly it's not something too difficult to do.

I'll leave the decision to you.  I'd rather care for a documentation of
the issue.

Kind regards and thanks for working on this

      Andreas.

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