[Pkg-mono-devel] removing packages to get them in (britney stupidity)

Eduard Bloch blade@debian.org
Fri, 10 Sep 2004 21:46:45 +0200


Moin Andreas!
Andreas Barth schrieb am Freitag, den 10. September 2004:

> > There is no real explanation why this have to be done this way. It is
> > IMHO completely perverse and a bad excuse for a logical malfunction of
> > the britney script.
> 
> I just disagree, and consider the way britney works to be the right way.
> However, if you want to discuss this, we should perhaps take this
> discussion to d-d and not in a certain bugreport.

And so it should happen. Let me sumarize it for the rest of the d-d readers:

Mono packages are not really good supported on anything but i386 and
powerpc. We wish to remove them. Unfortunately, there are really old
builds for alpha, s390, arm, and the build process does no longer work
for them. There is no real support from upstream (1.0 is _stable_) which
means: mono on everything else than i386 and ppc is de facto dead before
the next release comes.

Now the Debian problem: we cannot make the Testing transition! Reason:
the old dead packages on s390, arm, alpha. We cannot remove them from
testing (no reaction from FTP masters). And according to the RM team,
these would not even be enough! We are ought to remove all "problematic"
packages and then reupload them.

My answer is - WTF? We should wait again,  >>5..8 weeks for the "new"
packages to be accepted in Sid, where they already are? (And I do not
trust FTP masters, they do not even react for simple requests like
removal). So in the X weeks we do not have Mono in Sid (which renders a
dozen of packages uninstallable) AND with a bit bad luck we won't get it
into Sarge at all!

IMHO the things should be really simple: remove the old generation
packages from Sarge and let the new ones move into Testing. But now I
learn that the monster britney won't let us do this.

If this is how things are supposed to work: fine. There will be no Mono
in Sarge. Blame the persons behind the problems described above in
future.

EOF,
Eduard.
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