[Pkg-mono-devel] Re: removing packages to get them in (britney stupidity)

Colin Watson cjwatson@debian.org
Sat, 11 Sep 2004 01:32:09 +0100


On Fri, Sep 10, 2004 at 09:46:45PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Andreas Barth schrieb am Freitag, den 10. September 2004:
> > I just disagree, and consider the way britney works to be the right way.
> > However, if you want to discuss this, we should perhaps take this
> > discussion to d-d and not in a certain bugreport.
> 
> And so it should happen. Let me sumarize it for the rest of the d-d readers:
> 
> Mono packages are not really good supported on anything but i386 and
> powerpc. We wish to remove them. Unfortunately, there are really old
> builds for alpha, s390, arm, and the build process does no longer work
> for them. There is no real support from upstream (1.0 is _stable_) which
> means: mono on everything else than i386 and ppc is de facto dead before
> the next release comes.
> 
> Now the Debian problem: we cannot make the Testing transition! Reason:
> the old dead packages on s390, arm, alpha. We cannot remove them from
> testing (no reaction from FTP masters).

No wonder, since ftpmaster does not generally process removals from
testing. That's normally the domain of the release team.

> And according to the RM team, these would not even be enough! We are
> ought to remove all "problematic" packages and then reupload them.

You are wrong here, and this unhelpfully misrepresents the position.
Removing the out-of-date builds from unstable (and having an appropriate
entry for mono added to Packages-arch-specific so that the buildds don't
keep trying to build them) is sufficient, moreover correct, and will not
require you to upload mono again.

> (And I do not trust FTP masters, they do not even react for simple
> requests like removal).

Unlucky.

Cheers,

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Colin Watson                                       [cjwatson@debian.org]