[php-maint] Debian PHP 5 release schedule

[Andi Gutmans]

Hi Sean,

Pleased to meet you and the rest of the Debian team.
Can you give us some more information on how you manage patch releases?
Have you backported security patches which came after PHP 5.2.0? We have
released three mini releases since and are just about to do a PHP 5.2.4
release. Some of the patches are critical.
Is your policy also against moving up on mini-releases? (which are
binary compatible releases).

Thanks in advance,
Andi
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Schindler [mailto:ralph at smashlabs.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:19 PM
> To: sean finney
> Cc: pkg-php-maint at lists.alioth.debian.org; Andi Gutmans
> Subject: Re: [php-maint] Debian PHP 5 release schedule
> 
> Hey Sean,
> 
> Thanks for taking the time to reply!  I personally am very 
> interested in finding the best way to fix this bug, 
> especially considering how long 5.2.0-x will be in production 
> for Debian.
> 
> I am cc'ing Andi as he is also interested in a path that 
> would facilitate the fixing of this bug, as he has resources 
> way beyond my own ;)
> 
> Also, do you have guidelines as per submitting the patch for 
> the fix?  I assume the patch must work against the current 
> "stable version" of the source that Debian has in the package 
> repository?
> 
> Thanks again for your time,
> Ralph
> 
> sean finney wrote:
> > hi ralph,
> > 
> > On Tuesday 07 August 2007 08:01:32 pm Ralph Schindler wrote:
> >>    My name is Ralph Schindler and I (on my free time) work on the 
> >> Zend Framework.  In building some components for the 
> framework, I've 
> >> come across a problem in PHP that only exists in php 
> version 5.2.0, 
> >> which coincidentally, is the current stable version of PHP 
> in that series.
> >>
> >> My question is, when do you guys expect the 5.2.3 (in 
> testing) build 
> >> to become stable?
> > 
> > not for quite a while.  major version changes typically only happen 
> > when debian makes a new stable release.  so i'd guess 
> somewhere in the 
> > ballpark of a year or so.
> > 
> > i'm really unhappy about the quality of 5.2.0, especially since i 
> > pushed really hard to get 5.2.0 into stable before we froze 
> for etch, 
> > only to find out that it was full of regressions and bugs.  but the 
> > blame for that can go elsewhere, or at least be shared with the php 
> > upstream devs :)
> > 
> >> Unfortunately, there is no fix for the issue in that 
> version, and I 
> >> have noticed quite a few people (that use debian) discover their 
> >> problem on their own.
> >>
> >> A fix exists by using &__get() instead of __get() for all versions 
> >> greater than 5.1.4 with the EXCEPTION of 5.2.0.
> > 
> > if you want the fix to make it to stable, the best thing 
> you can do is 
> > provide a patch against the current version in stable which 
> fixes this 
> > problem, and i can make it generally available for testing. 
>  after i 
> > hear back from enough people that it works and doesn't 
> explode their 
> > web servers, i can send it to the proposed-updates branch of stable.
> > 
> > 
> > 	sean
> > 
> > 
> > 
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