[php-maint] Bug#442361: QuickForm PHP Licence makes it undistributable

Stephanie Layton stephanielayton at mac.com
Thu Aug 13 13:13:29 UTC 2009

Hey Dan,

No worries, was afraid my friendly tone would get lost in the email.    
You have inspired me to put an update on these ITPs before heading out  
to a 12 - 13 hour work day :)....  Thank you for the inspiration,  
sometimes we have so much on our plates a year is over done before we  
know it.   And believe it or not, I actually did understand somehow  
that you didn't intend to take the packages away, there was no  
"threat" felt.  More accurate is that I have been working on getting  
those packages done and out into pub for so long now (in between lots  
of other projects), it felt disappointing to not have shared those  
efforts with you, both share them and save someone else the effort.   
Time is precious... completely my deal for not getting these out to a  
public repository by now.... ( -5 for me!)

Basic next steps:

Current notes on this package:  It is currently in process of being  
uploaded to ALIOTH public repository.  Post peer review/inspection it  
will be determined if it remains at ALIOTH or heads into getting into  
Debian packages list itself.  (Some of the PHP packages have licensing  

If you would like access to these packages please feel free to email.   
More information will be forthcoming as uploads to public repository  
and other movement....

Lastly, I haven't been able to get full out permission from Yann on  
maintianing and uploading to Yann.  Although way back we decided to  
help each other out and co-maintain.  He already had his packages  
complete when I started mine, they are just hiding out on a public  
server somewhere but as a co-maintainer I had the link and grabbed his  
first cut at packages and have since maintained them.  Since I didn't  
get a response from him to move forward on the Alioth plan I contacted  
him with a note letting him know that I would be doing an NMU  
maintenance on his package.  By the way, when you package on someone  
else's ITP, NMU (non maintainer update) is the way to go... that is if  
you get no response from them.  It keeps version numbers clear, among  
other things.

Gotta run...


On Aug 13, 2009, at 8:56 AM, Daniel Holbach wrote:

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> Stephanie wrote:
>> All these pkg
>> you are emailing about have already been pkgd for debian, months  
>> ago and
>> are in maint mode. Yup ran into the php liscencing "thing" too.  Am
>> working on contacting upstream auths.  As for the pkgs we have ITPs
>> on....again they are ALL done and heading to alioth a pub
>> repos....despite thevold date on ITPs...you obviously have the ITP
>> people's email addy... Had you emailed PRIOR to pkging as I believe  
>> is
>> polite and in keeping with good debian pkging protocol (seeing that  
>> the
>> pkgs you emailed have official ITP bug numbers) I could have saved  
>> you
>> time and been happy to share :)
> I'm sorry, but when we investigated CiviCRM packaging the only thing  
> we
> found were ITP bugs with little discussion and no links to the current
> packaging.
> Luckily enough it didn't take us very long to come up with the  
> packaging
> and we thought we'd actually help moving the inclusion in Debian  
> forward.
> To be clear, I really don't intend to take away your ITPs from you and
> if you intend to maintain those packages, then that's totally fine  
> with me.
> What are the next steps?
> Have a great day,
> Daniel
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