[php-maint] Bug#639286: Bug#639286: Bug#639286: [php5] please provide user interface for configuration

[Filipus Klutiero]

Hi Bob,

Le 2011-08-29 15:57, Bob Proulx a écrit :
> Filipus Klutiero wrote:
>> Ondřej Surý a écrit :
>>> Please don't play BTS ping pong.
>> What?
> You opened a bug.  Ondřej closed it.  You opened it again.
Yes?
>> As I wrote, this is not a bug report, but a request for enhancement.
> That is all well and good but the first problem is that php5, the
> package for which you are filing this against, is not the right place
> for this enhancement to go.
You are free to think so.
>   The second problem is that there isn't
> any place for requests such as that to go.
There is always a place for requests to go. When no good place exists, 
reports can be filed against the "general" pseudo-package.
>    This is not a useful
> issue to track in this way.
I'm not sure what a useful issue to track in this way would be.
>> I don't need a GUI badly enough to install Webmin manually, the
>> point is to make our life easier... but thanks.
> So as I understand your statement you have been presented with a
> reasonably easy way to manage your configuration file, by installing
> the already existing webmin.  Webmin isn't availale as a package at
> this moment but the source project exists and isn't that hard to
> install.  You are rejecting this as being too difficult.
Please remember this is not about *my* configuration file. I'm asking 
this for all of us PHP administrators whose life could be simplified 
with a good configuration interface. I am myself just a PHP application 
developer who needs to change a PHP setting once every few months. I 
didn't mean to say that manually installing Webmin would not be worth it 
in all cases, but the Webmin way means administrators need to:
* know that Webmin can do this
* install it
* keep it up-to-date

I don't think this effort will be worth it for many.
>    But on the
> other hand you are asking Ondřej and the rest of the Debian package
> management team to create from scratch a management interface for the
> same, completely handle the security implications, package it, include
> it in Debian, and maintain it forever.
I am not asking anyone to create from scratch a management interface. 
Webmin may well be the solution. There may be another configuration 
interface already created. Or, my request may entail creating an 
interface from scratch.
I don't know, all I'm asking is to offer an interface.
> As to your original issue:
>> I would like to be able to configure PHP (that is, presumably,
>> modify php.ini) in a convenient way.
> The most convenient way to configure the php.ini file is already
> available.  It is a text file.  It may be conveniently edited with any
> text editor.  If that is insufficient for you then I think it is
> perfectly reasonable to expect that you would be be the one who would
> need to be willing to do the work to provide alternatives.
I'm not saying a configuration file is insufficient for me. All I'm 
saying is that we would provide a better product by offering users a 
better configuration interface.