[Utnubu-discuss] src: redhat-cluster X redhat-cluster-suite

[Bart Martens]

On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 13:19 -0700, andremachado wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 18:30:40 +0200, Bart Martens <bartm at knars.be> wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-05-16 at 06:10 -0700, andremachado wrote:
> >> I found that Debian already has ALMOST the same packages as ubuntu.
> >> The source debian package redhat-cluster generates ALMOST the same 
> >> packaged binaries of ubuntu redhat-cluster-suite.
> >> http://packages.debian.org/stable/source/redhat-cluster
> >> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/feisty/source/redhat-cluster-suite
> >> As the packages have different names, but the same purpose and 
> >> upstream source, but somewhat different generated binaries, what 
> >> should be done?
> > 
> > Have you tried talking to Bastian and Fabio?
> > http://packages.qa.debian.org/r/redhat-cluster.html
> > http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/admin/redhat-cluster-suite
> > 
> > I'm not sure about how important this is for you.  I don't see a
> > technical problem, just a minor inconvenience when comparing Ubuntu with
> > Debian.  Am I overlooking something?
> > 
> > 
> Hello,
> I sent today a msg to the Debian pkg maintainer.

> The ubuntu packages are being worked and actively maintained. There are 
> open bugs in debian that were already solved in ubuntu months ago.

Feel free to post tested patches to the Debian BTS.

> I *guess* should be more productive to use the ubuntu packages as focal 
> points to avoid duplicate efforts, but I am not aware about the reasons 
> the debian package maintainer followed this way.
> I did not compared byte for byte the source packages yet.

The maintainers are free to join efforts or to work separately.

> By now, there are some "perceived" differences leading to an annoying domino 
> effect for related packages.
> ITP for redhat system-config-cluster and "maybe" for the Piranha lvs tool 
> (this one not even on ubuntu).
> I hope soon have an answer from package maintainer to clarify this. 

> I want 
> to help and avoid duplicate efforts, 

Great!

> but need some guidance about this 
> interaction ubuntu <-> debian.

Any specific questions?

> Why these packages were not in debian before? 

If some packages are in Ubuntu and not (yet) in Debian, then this is
simply because someone packaged the software for Ubuntu first.

> Should not Debian be the 
> "upstream" for ubuntu for lowering the costs for all? 

Reality is that Debian is "upstream" for Ubuntu for many packages, but
it is OK that Ubuntu is ahead for some packages, and that Debian copies
from Ubuntu for those packages.

> Why are there some 
> bugs solved at ubuntu still opened at debian? Lack of enough time? 

Various reasons, including lack of time, but also personal preferences
of the maintainers, technical differences between Ubuntu and Debian, ...

> How could I help? 

Can you be more specific on what exactly you want to help and what kind
of activity you want to do as contribution?

> (I am not a DD for a nmu).

Non-DD's can prepare an NMU and have that NMU reviewed and uploaded by a
sponsor.

Regards,

Bart Martens

-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: not available
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 189 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
Url : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/utnubu-discuss/attachments/20070516/30f7fdf1/attachment.pgp