How to start an app by a terminal and to keep it running, when closing the terminal?

[Richard Hector]

On 21/05/14 21:39, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 04:25:46PM +1200, Richard Hector wrote:
>> On 21/05/14 15:51, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> There is sometimes a fine line between whether a question should be on
>>> debian-user or an upstream support channel, e.g. a question about
>>> send-hook syntax in mutt belongs on the mutt-users list, whereas a
>>> question regarding character display *may* be a locales issue and
>>> therefore should be posted to debian-user.
>>>
>>> Of course, an absolute beginner wouldn't necessarily have the 'nouse' to
>>> troubleshoot whether the question belongs on mutt-users or debian-user.
>>
>> I and I think most on d-u would have absolutely no problem with mutt
>> questions, bash questions etc. Even occasional hardware questions.
>> Asking questions that are specifically _not_ debian (eg ubuntu
>> questions) is frowned upon. But few of us have time to deal with
>> subscribing to a mutt list to ask a single mutt question. And mutt is
>> after all part of the Debian GNU/Linux OS.
> 
> I presume you are joking, but remember newbies may read this.

I'm not. I just went and confirmed the topic of the d-u list: "Help and
discussion among users of Debian/Support for Debian users who speak
English. (High-volume mailing list.)" - which is actually broader than
actual accepted usage on the list.

> There are more mutt experts on the mutt list than there are on the
> debian-user list.

I'm sure there are. Well, proportionally, anyway. But Debian is a
complete operating system, not just a packaging system, and mutt is part
of that. As long as it's mutt on Debian, then in my view it's fine.
Others are welcome to disagree.

> It helps when you are searching for help on mutt to only have to search 
> one archive: mutt-users, instead of having to search, debian-user,
> gentoo-user, redhat-user, etc. etc. I hope you can see the benefit of having 
> the information available in one place rather than scattered willy nilly all
> over the Internet.

When I want help with mutt, I use a search engine which scatters my
search willy nilly all over the internet :-) I have no problem if some
of my results come from Red Hat users or BSD users or Tru64 users or
whatever - or from a dedicated mutt list.

And if I didn't find what I wanted, I'd make my mind up where to ask -
for general usage on a Debian system, I'd ask on d-u. If I wanted deeper
knowledge, then yes I'd subscribe to a mutt list - and hopefully would
be politely pointed there if I hadn't realised my question was too deep
for d-u. But I'm certainly not going to subscribe to the lists for every
application I use, and it seems rude to subscribe, ask a question, and
disappear again. I'd rather be on d-u where I can answer some questions
occasionally too (though timezones seem to mean that others often answer
before I get the chance ...)

> Debian support does not mean mutt support, postfix support, bash support
> etc etc. if that was the case why not just have one list?

They are all parts of the Debian GNU/Linux system.

> Why do you think there are so many debian lists, for example?

For the deeper or more specialised issues.

I'm basing all this on the usage I've seen on the list over the years.
I'm happy to hear alternative viewpoints.

Richard