[debian-yeeloong-project] debian squeeze on fuloong 6004 installation report

[Michael Dorrington]

On 16/07/11 12:56, Roman Mamedov wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:47:22 +0100 Michael Dorrington
> <michael.dorrington at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Reasons to have a Yeeloong only page:
>> 
>> * Yeeloong has a special place of being the 'RMS' laptop and has 
>> (nearly) all free software BIOSes. The Fuloong is not used by RMS
>> and does not have all free software BIOSes, particularly the VGA,
>> so doesn't have a special place.
> 
> Unfortunately Yeeloong does not have any kind of special place to
> Debian, last time I checked Debian did not differentiate whether a
> machine has free BIOS or not, to give it any kind of special status,
> surely not to a point of influencing the way in which Debian
> installation manuals are structured.

Many people in Debian do care about having free BIOSes, about RMS and
the RMS laptop.
Some examples of the special place in Debian:
* This mailing list!:
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debian-yeeloong-project
* The wiki page:
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianYeeloong
* Packages: grub-yeeloong-bin and grub-yeeloong.

>> * The Yeeloong and Fuloong are not the same hardware.
> 
> Fuloong has less hardware, making it easier to work with, if
> anything. Also the SiS 315 video chip just works with the driver from
> repository without any hoops with patching X.org.

Fuloong has some less hardware, some more hardware and some different
hardware.

>> The Fuloong has the following that the Yeeloong does not: + DVI and
>> S-Video out. + Serial.
> 
> These do not require any special steps during the installation.

Different xorg.conf, packages, patching?

>> * The Yeeloong page shares the idea behind the Eee PC page: +
>> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC + It is still 'i386'.
>> http://wiki.debian.org/i386
> 
> Agreed, then perhaps the DebianYeeloong page should focus on the
> Laptop-specific bits (keyboard/vga/wifi/camera/battery/fan), while
> leaving all the general Loongson stuff (PMON/initrd/kernel) to a
> generic Loongson2F page common for all hardware built on this base.

Perhaps but, as I said, the instructions for installing on the Yeeloong
described on the wiki, work for the Yeeloong but not, apparently, for
the Fuloong. If someone gets a Yeeloong I would want it to be as easy as
possible to install Debian on it and them not have to work through some
Fuloong+Yeeloong mixed install guide confusing things.

Regards,
Mike.

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